Xander was a Fool to Leave Anya at the Altar
POSTED BY: RiveR6213
UPDATED: Friday, June 1, 2007 03:36
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Agentrouka: I guess some of us just see your standard as impossible to meet. We are human. We fail. Are childish, selfish, cowardly because we fail? No. We're human. That is all.
Xander failed. He actually did the brave thing by not marrying Anya. There are, dare I say, thousands of married couples that should've taken his brave way out, but instead they got married.
There are many choices in the world, and just because a choice hurts someone doesn't make it cowardly or selfish. Anya was better off not marrying a man who had finally figured out that he wasn't ready to be married.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
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It's not the choice not to marry her I consider bad, which I have said before.
It's the delay in coming to that decision. Which wasn't necessary.
And I'm not saying that people are capable of being perfect 100% of the time, but I think the standard should remain what it is. Mine will, anyway. You don't make things right simply by not calling them wrong.
Just to read your use of the word "failed" already makes me almost satisfied, actually, because it's not "he was confused" or "emotionally intoxicated" or "at the appropriate maturity level for his age" or anything else that pretends he did anything other than (spectacularly) fail at doing the thing he should have. Which was to use him head before the wedding day.
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Quote:Not snappy (snippy?), just trying to look at it not from within the situation.
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Why so snappy?
And just like I'm not concerned with matters of who deserved what, I'm not really interested in matters of punishment, either. That's your idea.
As to punishment...Galactic Tribunal...Lost In Space, get it?
No?
Damn, I am old....
Anyway, I'm just in this discussion for the fun of it, no hostility here.
NOW GIVE XANDER A GORRAM BREAK!!!!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Not snappy (snippy?), just trying to look at it not from within the situation.
As to punishment...Galactic Tribunal...Lost In Space, get it?
No?
Damn, I am old....
Maybe you're old. Maybe I'm just sci-fi ignorant... In fact, I probably am.
It's a failing....
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NOW GIVE XANDER A GORRAM BREAK!!!!
I would, if I felt he really realized what he did, honest!
Instead, I will stare at him with the pitiless eyes of judgment for all of eternity.
(Mwaha!)
On the upside, I doubt Xander much cares. *G*
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If you guys are going to keep talking about this, would it be too much to ask to edit the title so nobody else gets spoiled, please? Loose lips sink ships, after all.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Let's take a step back in the Galactic Tribunal here....
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
not even Anya an ex-Vengeance demon deserved that.
Anyanka, you are found guilty of quite a few hundred counts of murder, disfiguration, transmogrification, torture, time-line alteration, and self-rightiousness. You are hereby sentanced to be left at the altar by your boyfriend, and killed quickly at the final battle of the Sunnydale Hellmouth.
She got off lightly in the big picture, don't you think?
Judge Chrisisall
No, she didn't deserve that at all. If I had been her I would have left out of Xander's life forever and gone to another city. Honestly, she could have done WAY better than that one-eyed freak.
-River
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I'd take him in a heartbeat! you know, if I were a tv/comic character. I love Xander. Always have, always will.
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"What if you could have the power? Now? In every generation, one Slayer is born...because a bunch of men who died thousands of years ago made up that rule...
So I say we change the rule. I say my power should be our power...
Every girl who could have the power, will have the power. Can stand up, will stand up...
Make your choice. Are you ready to be strong?"--Buffy Summers, May 20, 2003
"In Joss We Trust."
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No, she didn't deserve that at all. If I had been her I would have left out of Xander's life forever and gone to another city. Honestly, she could have done WAY better than that one-eyed freak.
-River
Could she really? Like who? Xander was by the standards of 'the gang' relatively easy: He was the only one with a proper job in the end, he regarded the world from a more human point of view than anyone else and he ultimately did not succumb to the demonic/supernatural trappings that many of the others did. He also kept Buffy Slaying and reassured her and Dawn on countless of occasions. Plus he suppressed the mad and hysterically insane willow resulting in him saving the world.
I dunno - if a guy who saves the world isn't good enough for Anya then NOBODY is surely....
Anya was emotionally immature (remember how she demanded Xander sleep with her so she could 'get over him' I think it was season four - granted she was adjusting to the whole being human thing so that's understandable, however she then developed a worrying obsession for money. And her past was catching up with her. To me she seemed like trouble with not enough endearing qualities to justify her past.
She was a great character though and extremely funny.
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Rouka running off on tangents again!
I just wanted to comment on this particular bit:
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I dunno - if a guy who saves the world isn't good enough for Anya then NOBODY is surely....
Saving the world has diddly squat to do with what sort of catch a person is in a relationship.
Having achieved heroic feats or being someone else's good friend... irrelevant. What matters is how the other half of one's relationship is treated.
I'm sure there are heroes out there who neglect their children or beat them or cheat on their spouses.
They save other people or were in the right place at the right time with the right people - or maybe they had the moral compass to fight for the right thing until they succeeded - but are still incapable of treating their partner with respect and attention.
I never get when people fail to make that distinction.
As if romantic love is somehow a prize to be won for unrelated things. Or as if heroism in one area immediately erases all negative aspects of a personality.
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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Rouka running off on tangents again!
I just wanted to comment on this particular bit:Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I dunno - if a guy who saves the world isn't good enough for Anya then NOBODY is surely....
Saving the world has diddly squat to do with what sort of catch a person is in a relationship.
Having achieved heroic feats or being someone else's good friend... irrelevant. What matters is how the other half of one's relationship is treated.
I'm sure there are heroes out there who neglect their children or beat them or cheat on their spouses.
They save other people or were in the right place at the right time with the right people - or maybe they had the moral compass to fight for the right thing until they succeeded - but are still incapable of treating their partner with respect and attention.
I never get when people fail to make that distinction.
As if romantic love is somehow a prize to be won for unrelated things. Or as if heroism in one area immediately erases all negative aspects of a personality.
Strangely enough my creep of a father came to mind when you said that. Any way, you won't find me even thinking about arguing your point because you are 100% correct.
-River
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