Jerry Falwell dead at 73
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Sunday, May 20, 2007 16:55
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Sorry folks, but..
I'm glad he's dead and I sincerely hope that he's roasting on a spit in his beloved christian hell to sappy organ music with a bunch of damn fools shovelling coal on the fire singin hallelua.
Why ?
Oh anyone can say anything they like, and a man has a right to his opinion, same as anyone else, but when they encourage, directly or indirectly - the destruction of non-believers by any means violent or no, they've crossed a line with me and become a nuisance and a threat.
You can think that I am an asshole all you want, sure - but were you to take that and then go round up a bunch of faithful to kick my ass, yeah, if you wrecked your car en-route and were decapitated sliding under an 18 wheeler, I'd be pretty damn happy about it, make no mistake.
Your right to believe ENDS right when and where your belief requires that I die for mine.
Sohim, I hope he burns nice and crispy, it's not like he actually practiced the belief he rode to power on anyway.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
At least you are honest and don't mince words about who you like and dislike.
-River
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"Jesus taught forgiveness and not to judge others."
Yes, and his oft-repeated harsh judgement of hypocrites is a study in self-contradiction. Parisee/ Publican; adulteress/ executioners; money changers ... and so on.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
So
I/m not sure I'm clear on how you feel about him Frem.
Anyway...is that going to be the special hell reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theatre?
And you can't change that by gettn' all bendy.
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Originally posted by rue:
"Jesus taught forgiveness and not to judge others."
Yes, and his harsh judgement of the hypocrites is a study in self-contradiction.
The people on this planet are not really big into the forgivness thing as history has shown us over and over again. It takes a special personality type to forgive and I don't think that most people have it in them.
Falwell's actions in life didn't affect me one way for another, so I don't really care if he burns or is in heaven right now drinking martini's and laughing at his good fortune.
I know a "snake-oil" salesman when I see or hear one, so there was no way that I could ever have been drawn into a television evangalist's noise, but it appears that millions of other people did listen to him, and give him money and believed as he did. I figure a lot of them got something out of it, so don't totally blame Falwell.
-River
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:No one is asking you to agree with Reverend Falwell or like what he stood for, and no one is even asking you not to hate him, but that doesn’t change that I think it’s assholish to find pleasure in the death of another human being simply because you don’t like what he stood for.
Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
"We reap what we.....how's the rest of that go Finn??.
Mr Fallwell had the right to preach anti gay and anti liberal rhetoric through freedom of religion. Don't be rediculous and think that because someone died...that all the people he offended will sit in silence. I'm not gay, but if I was, I'd be happy that someone who said my very existence is wrong...has finally gone on to judgement. Remember the Munchkins and the witch. Ding Dong blu-blah-blah-blaaah. Anyway...you get my point.
Look, I didn’t agree with everything Falwell had to say, either. I found some of it offensive and some of it just plane stupid. But then again, I can’t say much better about some of the people on this board. Should I hate the people on this board because I find what they say offensive or stupid? Should they hate me? That’s too much hate for me. I’m not stopping you from hating Falwell if that’s what you want, but don’t try to justify it and certainly don’t try to convince me of it. Life is too short and there are too many real evil people in the world to waste energy hating people purely for their beliefs or how they expressed those beliefs.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
You either can't read, or you're too cowardly to address what we've really been saying.
You keep making this about "beliefs", and it's not. It's about his actions.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:So what? Just a minute ago you were chastising me for not following what you claimed was Jesus’ example. Now you’re trying to discredit that example?
Originally posted by rue:
Yes, and his oft-repeated harsh judgement of hypocrites is a study in self-contradiction. Parisee/ Publican; adulteress/ executioners; money changers ... and so on.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Really? And what actions are those?
Originally posted by Storymark:
You either can't read, or you're too cowardly to address what we've really been saying.
You keep making this about "beliefs", and it's not. It's about his actions.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Come on guys! why are you even arguing about this? Falwell was a snake-oil salesman nothing more. Not even worthy of fight.
-River
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Finn- Do you hate radical Muslims? Child molesters? Communists? Just wondering where you draw the line between those you hate and those you don't.
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Always look upstream.
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"Just a minute ago you were chastising me for not following what you claimed was Jesus’ example. Now you’re trying to discredit that example?"
I'm trying to point out that 1) your beliefs are selective and 2) seem to be poorly founded.
For the record I have my own personal philosophy that's not NT. Insofar as Falwell preached hate I thought he poisoned humanity. And while I don't and didn't hate him personally I'm relieved he's no longer spreading his message. If he had simply stopped preaching rather than dying that would have worked for me as well.
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