#2 Ponders Anakin versus River - who would win
POSTED BY: FutureMrsFIllion
UPDATED: Friday, April 20, 2007 00:44
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FMF:
The only thing I can guarantee is that one of 'em would be crying like a little girl...and it wouldn't be the little girl.
The Jedi Mind 'Trick' only works on the weak-minded (implied: those that are not in tune with their environment; 'living on the world, not in it'). Think of Jabba's grinning lackey and Jar-Jar Binkies. River is not weak-minded, and is -- if anything -- too in tune with the world. Jedi Mind Control would work all day on Jayne, never on River.
River telling Jayne that she could kill him with her brain was not so much literal, but simply her reading his fear that she might be able to. She let him believe his worst fear of her. To an extent, she is practicing JMC on him.
Light sabres are only a perfect defense against energy weapons. In KotOR, metallic swords and axes are not rendered ineffectual against light sabres in dueling situations. This may be more for gameplay purposes, however. In reality, a light sabre should slice through a metallic sword after a stroke or two, similar to the way light sabres were used to penetrate sealed ship hatches in the movies.
Slug throwers (i.e., handguns, etc.) would penetrate light sabre defense. Jayne's submachine gun (SMG) would riddle a Jedi with holes, for example. In addition to having an overwhelming rate of fire, standard projectiles do not have a tracer effect to aid the Jedi in visually tracking their trajectories. In addition, a bullet would provide at least some resistance/interference to the sabre's beam and force field, meaning that deflection shots would not work and some of the bullet's considerable momentum/inertia would be transferred to the wrists of the Jedi (because dueling Jedi can lean against one another balanced on the crossed light sabres). Thus, a simple gunpowder weapon would be more effective as an anti-Jedi weapon than even a repeating blaster. Your run-of-the-mill Hollywood theme park quick-draw artist would kill any Jedi except possibly Yoda , who's a bullet (small, rapidly evading target) himself.
Anakin's biggest advantage might be the powers referred to as Force Grip and Force Lightning. But with River's undoubted outright mind-reading abilities, she'd probably just shoot him while he was still working up his comical 'menacing look', leaving his cooling body lying in the road while she continued trying to figure out how to eat an 'ice planet', and the crew wondered aloud who that guy in the black cape was and why she felt she needed to kill him...
In conclusion, a duel between River and Anakin would be over before it even began, because River'd see him coming as soon as he disembarked his Imperial shuttle.
Forcefully,
zoid
P.S.
If there was ever any doubt, this proves that I am a Star Wars geek of at least the third order. So, when I say that I was deeply disappointed in the second 'First' Trilogy, especially with the motivations of just about every main character, it doesn't come from a 'hater'. It comes from a 'lover', spurned by George Lucas' stilted, flawed vision.
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"Fire..." -River, "Out of Gas", Firefly
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Oh come on ...that whiney self absorbed easily manipulated half wit.. he wouldn't stand a chance. I mean look how easy it was for the emperor to whisper a few things, plant a few seeds and "poof" one Anakin puppet made to order...Nobody controls River, not even the people who used chemical and physical means to invade her...No contest
"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
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Annakin would win because of a nasty thing he has called The Force.
-River
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Annakin would win because of a nasty thing he has called The Force.
-River
Without meaning to be abrupt, except in the ways that I mean to be nothing but abrupt, read Zoids post and have a little geek-out to yourself.
Our criminal institutions are full of little creeps like you who do wrong things.
Many of them were driven to these things by a horrible force called Music.
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If Anakin had his lightsaber, then our Ms. Tam would have a bit of a problem, seein' as she seems to prefer the melee weapons (If I could kick as much ass as she can with only an axe, then I would too... Hell, I prefer 'em anyways... comes inj handy in the Zombie Apocalypse- wait, am I gettin' off track here?)
Anakins' main thing, the whole "I am Holier then thou, now DIE JEDI!!!!" syndrome single handedly turns him into a whiny lil' prick.
Case closed- River would out-psycho him, and leave him curled in the fetal posistion like Brouedoure after a game against the Rangers (Cuz the Rangers are AWESOME to the Nth degree).
Having fun yet?
-Danny
I wanna take the Bullet,
The one aimed straight for your Heart;
I wanna meet the wolves halfway,
And let them Tear me APART,
But that's not the way they do it here...
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
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"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
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river all the way
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Forget about the Force. River's way of thinking would confound Anakin. She would beat him at his own game in the same way she so skillfully twisted Badger around her lethal little finger.
If I'm gonna dream, I'm gonna dream big.
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Originally posted by zoid:
FMF:
The only thing I can guarantee is that one of 'em would be crying like a little girl...and it wouldn't be the little girl.
The Jedi Mind 'Trick' only works on the weak-minded (implied: those that are not in tune with their environment; 'living on the world, not in it'). Think of Jabba's grinning lackey and Jar-Jar Binkies. River is not weak-minded, and is -- if anything -- too in tune with the world. Jedi Mind Control would work all day on Jayne, never on River.
River telling Jayne that she could kill him with her brain was not so much literal, but simply her reading his fear that she might be able to. She let him believe his worst fear of her. To an extent, she is practicing JMC on him.
Light sabres are only a perfect defense against energy weapons. In KotOR, metallic swords and axes are not rendered ineffectual against light sabres in dueling situations. This may be more for gameplay purposes, however. In reality, a light sabre should slice through a metallic sword after a stroke or two, similar to the way light sabres were used to penetrate sealed ship hatches in the movies.
Slug throwers (i.e., handguns, etc.) would penetrate light sabre defense. Jayne's submachine gun (SMG) would riddle a Jedi with holes, for example. In addition to having an overwhelming rate of fire, standard projectiles do not have a tracer effect to aid the Jedi in visually tracking their trajectories. In addition, a bullet would provide at least some resistance/interference to the sabre's beam and force field, meaning that deflection shots would not work and some of the bullet's considerable momentum/inertia would be transferred to the wrists of the Jedi (because dueling Jedi can lean against one another balanced on the crossed light sabres). Thus, a simple gunpowder weapon would be more effective as an anti-Jedi weapon than even a repeating blaster. Your run-of-the-mill Hollywood theme park quick-draw artist would kill any Jedi except possibly Yoda , who's a bullet (small, rapidly evading target) himself.
Anakin's biggest advantage might be the powers referred to as Force Grip and Force Lightning. But with River's undoubted outright mind-reading abilities, she'd probably just shoot him while he was still working up his comical 'menacing look', leaving his cooling body lying in the road while she continued trying to figure out how to eat an 'ice planet', and the crew wondered aloud who that guy in the black cape was and why she felt she needed to kill him...
In conclusion, a duel between River and Anakin would be over before it even began, because River'd see him coming as soon as he disembarked his Imperial shuttle.
Forcefully,
zoid
P.S.
If there was ever any doubt, this proves that I am a Star Wars geek of at least the third order. So, when I say that I was deeply disappointed in the second 'First' Trilogy, especially with the motivations of just about every main character, it doesn't come from a 'hater'. It comes from a 'lover', spurned by George Lucas' stilted, flawed vision.
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"Fire..." -River, "Out of Gas", Firefly
Ok, here goes my attempt to defend the most awesome person to ever be thought up.....
I kind of agree with you when you say the Jedi mind trick won't work. But I really don't think guns would cause Anakin any trouble at all. The bullets, though very fast and small, could not only be detected using the force but easily swept to the side before they were even close enough to bother deflecting with the Light Saber.
Also the reflexes of Jedi like Anakin are just to amazing to let bullets hit them. Unless she took him by suprise which I doubt she could because she would be detected by the force long before she got to him.
As you said, Force Choke and Force Lightning and all other knowledge of the force would bring her down before she could pull a trigger or do anything else for that matter.
I think it all comes dow
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Ok, here goes my attempt to defend the most awesome person to ever be thought up.....
I kind of agree with you when you say the Jedi mind trick won't work. But I really don't think guns would cause Anakin any trouble at all. The bullets, though very fast and small, could not only be detected using the force but easily swept to the side before they were even close enough to bother deflecting with the Light Saber.
Also the reflexes of Jedi like Anakin are just to amazing to let bullets hit them. Unless she took him by suprise which I doubt she could because she would be detected by the force long before she got to him.
As you said, Force Choke and Force Lightning and all other knowledge of the force would bring her down before she could pull a trigger or do anything else for that matter.
I think it all comes down to his awesome Jedi skills and the force, which people seem to underestimate.
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