The Third HEROES thread
POSTED BY: reginaroadie
UPDATED: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:21
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What have I been saying? Mr. Bennett is a good guy whose actions are motivated primarily by his love for his family. Like I said, this episode we will find out what Bennett is really made of. To save his family, Bennett sacrificed his own memories of the daughter that he loved. What did Bennett know that would lead him to such an extreme course of action to protect his daughter from the ‘company?’ That may have been lost too.
That last scene was harsh. Claire discovers too late that her naïve perspective has misplaced her resentment. Now the father that she thought had betrayed her, she has lost, because he really hadn’t. That is such a striking and sad metaphor for the struggles that a father faces with a teenage daughter. The dynamic between Claire and Bennett is likely to be particularly heart-wrenching, while Claire comes to terms with what she’s lost and why.
And Claire all burned up. Wow. That was freaky. Amazingly though, her clothes faired far better then they probably should have.
Yep this is one of the best episodes so far.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Now that you mention it, Claire's clothes are like the Hulk's pants or the clothes that Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt wore in the final scenes in TWISTER. They fall under the Super-Decency law that no matter what catastrophe, there will always be enough clothing on to save a super-powered character from indecent exposure.
I think the only time a character has survived a natural catastrophe without any clothes was an ep of KING OF THE HILL where Hank was caught near a tornado, and the tornado managed to rip off all his clothes. And it was between a Mexican flag and a potted cactus that saved him from further embarrassment. Guess which one he chose.
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"Have you ever fired two guns whilst jumping through the air?"
"No."
"Have you ever fired ONE gun whilst jumping through the air?"
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And wasn't little Hiro just the most adorable little guy? (Wonder why he doesn't remember ever being in NYC before. Or on that particular roof before. Mindwipe?)
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Quote:Yeah, I remember that.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
I think the only time a character has survived a natural catastrophe without any clothes was an ep of KING OF THE HILL where Hank was caught near a tornado, and the tornado managed to rip off all his clothes. And it was between a Mexican flag and a potted cactus that saved him from further embarrassment. Guess which one he chose.
That convenient band of burnt clothing remaining tightly bound around Claire’s bosom, made me wonder if that was really necessary. I’m about the most conservative guy when it comes to decency on television, but yet I really would have had no problem with Claire’s sufficiently crusty and burnt up exposed chest. Given the nature of her injuries, it’s not like anything would have actually survived anyway. So I felt that it was a little distracting, but it’s a small criticism. I thought it was exceptionally well done overall.
Quote:I don’t know that he doesn’t remember it, just that he doesn’t associate anything with it. I’m sure as far as he was concerned he was just on vacation with papa-san. Having a wealthy father, we can probably assume he’s vacationed (as far as he knew) in many far away places.
Originally posted by Grizwald:
And wasn't little Hiro just the most adorable little guy? (Wonder why he doesn't remember ever being in NYC before. Or on that particular roof before. Mindwipe?)
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I have to admit that Bennet finally did the right thing. That still doesn't excuse the questionable things he has been party to. I don't buy the "I did it all to protect my family" line. In the flashback he said something to the effect that he didn't mind working in a morally grey area. This leads me to believe that his intentions were not completely honorable.
Claire was the standout character in this episode. First she stands up to her father, outing him in front of everyone, then walks into a nuclear inferno to save the day. How is it that anyone else survived that anyway? Shouldn't Ted have been giving off massive amounts of radiation? Everyone in the house except Claire should be a goner.
Looks like Parkman has been drafted to replace the Haitan. Didn't much care for the whole mindwipe thing so I'm glad to see him go. I wonder if Matt will attempt to get Ted and his other accomplice out of there at some point. I really liked Ted in this episode, hopefully he won't be kept under wraps for too long.
I honestly did not forsee the Nakamura/Bennet connection so that was a nice touch.
Do any of them know his son possesses an ability?
This show keeps getting better by the week. It's starting to make other shows look very bad by comparison.
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I'm rather dissapointed with this week's comic. Seems awefully empty. We don't really learn anything we didn't know already, or at least couldn't have guessed easily. And the continuity error with the show (Claire's a whole lot older in the comic than in the episode when HRG adopted her).
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Well, we now know that Bennet doesn't mind the "gray moral area" but now since his mind has been wiped, we can now assume he's going to be back to the same old (15 years ago) Bennet that will have no problems shooting his friend/partner at the command of Those-in-Charge. Without his feelings toward Claire, I predict he will truely become the evil guy alot of us thought he was.
Be on the lookout for Bennet to confront Claire sometime in the future and attempting to gun her down without a moment's hesitation. If the Haitian had any sense, he'd mind-wipe Claire too so that she is not morally disadvantaged should that happen.
I will be the first to admit I was completely wrong with my early-early prediction that Bennet had a "dampening" power. I held out hope until the last possible moment on last night's episode. Yep, I was wrong.
Overall, a damn good episode! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it, and was please when the story line took off right from the beginning. Usually by the first commecial break, you're left with little more than a few more questions and some catch-up dialogue. Last night it seemed we were given a chance to be entertained right from the get-go, and had to hold on tight for the rest of the ride!
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Glad I have company.
Last night, I walked upstairs, climbed into bed and said to my wife “That was the greatest episode of Heroes ever!”
Pace has always been the major problem with this series. Since we all share a love for Firefly, we come from a background where pace was no problem. That is why most of us can take the boxed set of Firefly, throw on ‘Serenity’ (TV episode), and burn through all 4 discs in a weekend.
With Heroes, I have come so close to just bagging it all on several occasions, but last night made me glad I didn’t. It also appears that next week’s episode is going to be a good one (Is Simone a ‘hero’ or did she get fixed by Peter?). Perhaps last night was so good because they only stayed with one story line.
I agree that Bennett, Parkman, and the Haitian should have had more damage, as well as Eric Roberts (he does such a great job as a bad guy).
Don’t know how much wiping will be done on Bennett. He has to return functional. Maybe the Haitian is only removing the memory of the plan to free Claire.
And what’s up with the Haitian’s necklace which looks like Nikki’s tattoo?
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Don't forget, that same mark is on the Sword the Hiro is after.
Jack MacReady: It's obvious the bastard's got lyme disease!
Bill Pardy: What?
Jack MacReady: Lyme disease. You touch some deer feces, and then you... eat a sandwich without washin' your hands. You got your lyme disease!
Bill Pardy: And that makes you look like a squid?
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Well, when Bennet told the Haitian to "Go Deep" I assumed he was pushing towards having him remove all memory of Claire, if not just the stuff that made her a liability to him. He can't let Those-in-Charge know that he truely loved her and cared for her, or they would get suspicious that he let her go.
And as for The Symbol:
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The symbol
The symbolThe symbol appears most frequently throughout the series. In episode 12 ("Godsend") the symbol, as appears on the sword hilt, is revealed by Ando Masahashi to be a combination of two Japanese characters: 才 (sai) meaning "great talent" and 与 (yo) meaning "Godsend". Appearances include
As a decorative object in the Bennets' home.
In a swimming pool at the scene of one of Sylar's murders. Several flotation devices form the shape. (ep. 102, when Matt is next to the swimming pool, before being questioned by the FBI women)
On a billboard behind Hiro when he teleports at Times Square.
On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.
On various paintings by Isaac Mendez.
On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.
A pattern in the algorithm of a program in Chandra Suresh's laptop computer.
Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.
Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.
On Jessica's back whenever she surfaces as Niki's alternate personality. When Jessica is repressed, the symbol does not appear on Niki's back.
On the hilt of a katana once owned by 16th-century samurai Takezo Kensei, possibly the earliest known manifestation of the symbol. This katana is held by future Hiro and sought by present Hiro. The symbol also appears on the replica of the sword, which was stolen from the museum by Hiro.
Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book, Activating Evolution.
Printed on the upper-left corner of the 14th issue of 9th Wonders! comic book, written by Isaac Mendez.
On a necklace worn by the Haitian.
On a picture of Niki as "Jessica", painted by Isaac. The symbol was hidden under an extra layer of paint. (Later on, Jessica hides the symbol under a layer of foundation.)
Drawn on a Greyhound bus sign, seen right before D.L. spots the runaway Micah in the episode "Homecoming".
The branch in the tank of Chandra's lizard.
Formed by shards of broken glass on the hallway floor when Sylar attacks Mrs. Bennet.
Seen in the form of an ice sculpture as a dolphin in the kitchen of a Las Vegas casino.
On the poker chips from Linderman's casino.
On the "About Us" page at Primatech Paper Company's website as part of the Heroes 360 experience.
On the sign behind Hiro and Ando when Hiro tells Ando to go home in Unexpected
In the sand where Nikki buries the bodies of the men that she (Jessica) killed.
On the Teenage Haitian's T-Shirt when he first met Mr. Bennet
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