All you righties can toast to the Iraq War success. Oh...no you can't.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, March 28, 2026 18:21
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Originally posted by Causal:
The point that I'm making--that you keep trying to dodge around--is that where before there was relative calm and stability in Iraq (no death squads, no suicide bombings, etc), now there's violence and instability. The conditions have changed, and I think it's legitimate to ask what role the U.S. invasion had on those conditions.
If you want to discuss all the causes of the current instability in Iraq, that's fine by me. The trend in this thread is to say America is totally responsible for them all. That's why Rue wants 660,000 dead and Chris wants a million+ dead; so they can blame all the deaths on the U.S., and specifically Bush. I can't go along with that.
The U.S. does bear some responsibility, for failing to anticipate the level of sectarian unrest. Saddam bears some, for placing one sect in a superior position, practically guaranteeing sectional hatred. The British didn't help when they created the country in the first place. al-Queda probably had a hand in things as well.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:At the risk of getting flamed for agreeing with you, I think the same.
Originally posted by Geezer:
The U.S. does bear some responsibility, for failing to anticipate the level of sectarian unrest. Saddam bears some, for placing one sect in a superior position, practically guaranteeing sectional hatred. The British didn't help when they created the country in the first place. al-Queda probably had a hand in things as iswell.
But let's not forget the main reason for all the unrest: religion.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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No, Stupidity.
"Come on guys, our great big imaginary friend says we have to kill those guys who have a different great big imaginary friend cause if we don't they'll kill us and rule the world!"
To quote Jubal Early here...
"Does that seem right to you ?"
-F
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by Khyron:
But let's not forget the main reason for all the unrest: religion.
Big fan of Richard Dawkins are we?
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
No, Stupidity.
Are you trying to be offensive? Oh, wait, I forgot, you're the guy who wants to burn Christians at the stake. Sorry--forgot.
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Quote:Just in this case they both have the same great big imaginary friend, and the same great big book of what he supposedly said, yet they still find reasons to kill each other.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
"Come on guys, our great big imaginary friend says we have to kill those guys who have a different great big imaginary friend cause if we don't they'll kill us and rule the world!"
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
[BThe British didn't help when they created the country in the first place.
We wanted the bit with the oil. Our bad....
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Actually I was going for a full measure of snark there.
Believe me, I know as well as any, the Christians and the Muslims are both sons of the line of Ibrihim/Abraham and thus brothers, and kinslaying is rather frowned upon in both belief systems.
Not to mention it's in violation of the Medina Compact, a peace treaty forged between the Christians, the Muslims and the Jews that worked for quite a while and was written by none other than Mohammed himself.
Not that knowin this stuff will stop me from mocking stupidity, no, especially if so-called believers of any of those three beliefs completely ignore the core principles of the very religions they're killin in the name of.
Mockery don't kill people, stupidity and intolerance does.
*Snark* 
*Snark*
-Frem
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Quote:But then, who doesn't...
Originally posted by Fletch2:
We wanted the bit with the oil. Our bad....
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Mockery don't kill people, stupidity and intolerance does.
Among other things...
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