Male and Female Imponderables - A Hard Earned Thirst Needs A Big Cold Beer, But I Drink To Get Pissed.
POSTED BY: Nicodemus
UPDATED: Monday, January 8, 2007 21:07
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It all started innocently enough…
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Originally posted by Tristan:
So, here's a good Imponderable...did anyone have resolutions this year, and how long do you think you'll stick to them?
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Ummmm... I made some vague resolutions to myself, yes.
Things along the lines of…distancing myself from any sort of emotional commitments...you know...same old, same old.
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Distance yourself? Me ‘fraid to approach!
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Continued practice to reach an unreachable perfection is good for the soul:
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
And you’re sure there’s no biological connection between you and CMH???
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Knowing ChrisMoorhead by only his name, I can neither confirm nor deny any biological connection.
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
JQ - I'm too masculine to be related to someone as girly as HellsKitten. I'll even be providing photos in the next hour or so to prove it.
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
!!! "Girly"?? I have never - in my entire life - been called, thought of, referred to, or imagined as "girly." This amuses, yet... I'm kind of... insulted. (?)
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Girly or no, I think she kicks ass. And that's something I know you know about...
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
As well you should be, being girly is a horribly bad thing to be! Arnold Schwarzenegger and I agree on this point. Maybe I'm just a meat head, but when I see all your photos of you playing dress up with your skirts and everything, I think girly.
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Originally posted by msg:
Hell's Kitten I share your sense of vague insult at the term girly...I wouldn't say it's seriously insulting, but mildly yes.. We have a teacher here who I was helping get his act together, but I kinda passed it off after we were discussing how I make my room smell nice using wallflowers from Bath and Body Works and he sai " aw you girls and your little lotions...that's so cute" Pondered punching him in the kidney, but decided that would be unprofessional.
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And you’re sure there’s no biological connection between you and CMH???
Actually, I was misquoting myself on that one. My original question the last time the three of us entered my head together (Please don't ask what that might mean; I think it means our posts were in close proximity.), I was wondering how come you two didn't hook up. Oh, well.
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Because I'm Asexual, and she prefers people without facial deformities. Completley opposit worlds.
Anyways, the pictures are coming, very soon! I bet your pants are squishy with excitement!
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my face is crooked.
asymmetric.
you have no idea how much that bothers me.
Acid test for Girly girlness vs. NON-girly girlness: Which of the following best describes you?
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Originally posted by Nicodemus:
Seeing as how the last thread racked up 125+ posts in less than 10 hours, and the weekends just getting started, I've used my (imaginary) powers to start a new one.
Am I ever going to live this down???
P.S. CMH, any kind of ceremonious smearing of blood, etc. to commemorate the kill?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Good morning all. Interesting evening/morning.
Hunting- As for the primative hunting, I've had the chance to be a part of a few netted rabbit drives. I hope someday I'll get to try a netted duck drive. These are traditionally the ways of hunting in these parts. I have to sgree, there's nothing like it. I have to disagree though about hunting being unneccessary. Some people still have a strong sense of tradition that needs to be carried on for future generations. I don't agree with killing. Not anymore. But as things become neccessary for survival, there is little prejudice towards the act for me. It might be advisable for the people who know how to teach others the reason, method, act, and consequences of doing so.
As for the mindset of CMH, please do not judge. It takes men millions of different ways to come to terms with their emotions or lack thereof. I've seen men prepare themselves in so many ways. One seasoned operator astounded me. He would spend four straight days with his wife and kids doing weekend stuff then fly off to some of the toughest shit I'd ever heard of. Somehow, he was totally the same guy when he got back. Strong, loving, and dedicated. His support system was set up in a way that his professional life and his personal life were completely seperated. I think what made him one of the best was that no matter what he was doing he was strong, loving, and dedicated. He loved his enemies. The work he did was clean and precise. The life he lived was not much different.
I seemed to have rambled for quite some time here, but many could write and have written volumes on the mindset and life path of heroes and villians. Many will never know the victories and failings of people in harms way. And few will only glimpse the horror that infects the hearts, minds and souls of these people.
Tips for those who've never been over the wire: Encourage rather than criticize. Empathize rather than sympathize. Listen rather than talk. Offer an ear rather than beer.
Okay. Shutting up now.
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I was with you all the way up to the beer. But seriously. I hope you and CMH and Kelkhil and a few of the others past and present know where you fall on my own list of heroes. I hope that I would have "risen to the occasion" had it come down to it, but I have no way of knowing. I do know that I have mourned the deaths of "insignificant" bugs and have killed other critters indescrimantly. Am I a Jeckyll/Hyde? Or just a Jackal Hide?
I love the Lion King. And I love Brother Bear. Of course I love Lady and the Tramp, too, but that's something else entirely. I think there is a lot of truth in what Mav said as far as thrill killing is concerned. What you're describing still has a respect for the Earth and her inhabitants; it's not for "fun", it's about touching something outside of us that is in us, too. Our heritage, our heredity. Reaching back, reaching out. Seeing where they meet and where our place is.
Getting drunk and shooting an animal is not sport. Going to the store is not hunting. Someone still had to kill the food, so maybe it's hunting by proxy. Go Vegans! (Aw c'mon. don't flame me either...!)
Now I am rambling. But isn't rambling just pondering out loud?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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See NV that's why I'm comfortable with you and CMH's hunting choices. You're not out there with some macho need to prove something about your masculinity by killing something as a "trophy" You're maintaining your culture and tradtions and he's preparing for war ( not to mention hunting in a far more reasonable way) and saving some poor deer from the agony of starving over months and months ( which is just about the worst death I can think of) so I've no problem.
I agree though. We aren't all going to have the same stance on anything and just being respectful doesn't require you to be in agreement of it or do it yourself, just an understanding that others see things differently which seems to be how Mavoureen and Jonny were viewing it :) Besides if there's an apocalypse I am sticking right close to you and CMH or I'll starve in a week. I'm pretty sure motivating kids and academics are sucky skills in a survival situation
Besides no puppies were killed so obviously Joss wasn't there:)
oh and on a weird note...do you make the bunnies into anything?? I mean like coats and such not radioactive Frankenbunnies.
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Going to the store is not hunting. Someone still had to kill the food, so maybe it's hunting by proxy. Go Vegans! (Aw c'mon. don't flame me either...!)
How do you know the carrots and tomatoes don't have feelings too? Even if they don't have a soul, you're still taking away their life. :P
She's not eatin' bacon, not eatin' sausage
and she won't eat eggs,
Not eatin' chicken, not eatin' turkey,
she won't have a steak,
But I just can't help feelin' sorry
for this poor little lettuce head
You know, I can't stop cryin'
'Cause I know this broccoli's dead
Vegetarian, I'm not a vegetarian
Vegetarian...she's a
Poor little cow, little sheep
Little fish how can I sleep?
When carrots are bleedin'
Plants are screamin' and tomatoes cry
You say "it's not so bad
They're only vegetables", that's what she said
Maybe I'm a murderer, but I'm hungry
And they're better off dead
Save a plant, eat a cow
I want beef, I want it now!
I'm gonna eat it cause it's red!
I'm gonna eat it cause it's dead!
maybe I should eat it raw
Let the blood run down my jaw
I'd eat people if it was legal
I'd eat people if it was legal!
(this was an attempt at humor, nothing more)
~jimi
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and a good attempt at humor it was:) I may use it in my poetry class
"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright
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Originally posted by msg:
I agree though. We aren't all going to have the same stance on anything and just being respectful doesn't require you to be in agreement of it or do it yourself, just an understanding that others see things differently which seems to be how Mavoureen and Jonny were viewing it :) Besides if there's an apocalypse I am sticking right close to you and CMH or I'll starve in a week. I'm pretty sure motivating kids and academics are sucky skills in a survival situation
oh and on a weird note...do you make the bunnies into anything?? I mean like coats and such not radioactive Frankenbunnies.
Just want to be extremely clear here. My not hunting is strictly a personal choice. I do not like sauerkraut, but I have nothing against eating it or other people who do. (Although I strongly suspect there is something wrong with them on some level...)
Frankenbunnies! I love it! I have the best weird friends in the universe, 'Verse included!
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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msg, I appreciate the fact that you pointed out the respect part. That's the main reason I hang here - I've met oodles of people who think very differently than me and I've learned a lot about all sides of issues.
Hunting in this day and age is a sticky sticky Ponder. You're either for it or against it. Husband is for it. Whenever he goes out, I am sure to call after him "Have fun hunting, don't kill anything!"
As far as sticking with the hunters....I sheepishly have to agree with you. Husband taught winter survival at Bridgeport, CA for the Marine Corps so I know I've got at least one self sufficient person on my side.
However, as Cheez-its are God's Perfect Food, and they do not roam free, I am sure to be the first up against the wall when the Apocalypse comes.
A hug for everyone. One for those who agree, and one for those who agree to disagree.
To lighten the mood :
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
As far as sticking with the hunters....I sheepishly have to agree with you. Husband taught winter survival at Bridgeport, CA for the Marine Corps so I know I've got at least one self sufficient person on my side.
OH, SHAT!! You never told me he was a Marine!!
Uh, Mr. Husband, sir, I just want you to know I have never said anything inappropriate to your Missus either intentionally or unintentionally, and even though she is hot I will never mention it to her or you or anyone in the locker.
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However, as Cheez-its are God's Perfect Food, and they do not roam free, I am sure to be the first up against the wall when the Apocalypse comes.
They are better than bananas. And they're orange.
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
How do you know the carrots and tomatoes don't have feelings too? Even if they don't have a soul, you're still taking away their life. :P
I have often wondered about this. And who says they don't have souls?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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