Male and Female Imponderables - A Hard Earned Thirst Needs A Big Cold Beer, But I Drink To Get Pissed.

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NICODEMUS

Friday, January 5, 2007 10:20 AM

Seeing as how the last thread racked up 125+ posts in less than 10 hours, and the weekends just getting started, I've used my (imaginary) powers to start a new one.

Old fun and frolics are still at http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=26282

And in honour of Sean Bean's casting in the remake of The Hitcher, I feel the following words od wisdom are required: One does not simply hitch-hike into Mordor.

Now then, ponderances (and gender-related no less): At what age would you allow your children to start dating, and would you set the age at different levels for boys and girls?

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DANCINGNEKO

Friday, January 5, 2007 10:32 AM

[Longer post than first posted...skim down folks...you've been warned ]
Firsties?

Yay! Firsties! *bounces*

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Nicodemus wrote:
Now then, ponderances (and gender-related no less): At what age would you allow your children to start dating, and would you set the age at different levels for boys and girls?

As a person whose had thousands of kids but none of my own (yeah, must be a crazy teacher) I'd say that I'd let my kids do the individual date thing when they're 16 or so (legal age of consent). Group dating would be probably 14 or 15 (after they've figured that the opposite sex is no longer icky).

('Course, that does include the fact that I'd have them go through a "I'll never have sex as a teen" experience -- be it observing a live birth at a hospital, or even one of those "real babies" for sex-ed stuff.)

(Edited to add)

Resolutions: I cheated a bit...tried to start a set of resolutions at the start of my break -- fat lot of good it did me...still haven't done any serious exercise, haven't stayed away from work for more than a few days (goal was at least a week striaght), 'though I'm getting closer to getting into the right sleep habits.

Actors typecast in my brain: Other than the ones already mentioned here (Ben Browder, William Shatner, Lenoard Nemoy, Adam West -- who I learned fairly recently used to be a newscaster in Hawaii at one time) I keep waiting for Claudia Black to pick on Ben's character instead of harrassing Dr. Jackson (on Stargate SG-1).

The others -- I can't picture a couple of Japanese actors as anything but the characters I grew up with (Daisuke Ban as he's known in America will always be "Jiro" from Kikaida/Kikaider, and Ken Matsudaira will always be "Shinnosuke Tokugawa" from Abarembo Shogun for me -- in fact my brain kept going "but he's not supposed to look like a ne'er-do-well-playboy" when I saw the video of his "Matsuken Samba")

Oh! Kevin Sorbo -- just saw him on an episode on F** (flipping channels, I swear!) and all I could think was "What's Hercules doing on there?"

Being too old for kids stuff: Huh!? Wha?! You mean there's such a thing?! Bubbles are better than smoking (sorry smokers -- I can get away with blowing bubbles in a room by myself at work, smoking would have me walking 20 feet away from the nearest open door/window or to the sidewalk off campus). Puddles? Well, haven't jumped in any for a while (miss those little kid rainboots though). Beyond that....my toys! MINE!

Goals that need to reach but haven't: I've got three -- learn the mandolin (gotta carve out time for that), learn/become proficient at either a blade, bow and arrow, or crossbow (too much time with the samurai shows, Dukes of Hazzard, and such), and be like my favorite childhood heros and ride a motorcycle (Kawasaiki or Suzuki 'cause that's what they rode)...

Tristan: If you got my last message, I'm gonna keep doing that every time I get that. (Fair warning -- *grin*)

NVG: *hugs* I know, I'm still getting my act together on the pictures I've got...one of these days I'll send you one so you can see why the "crazy Fillipino" and the "crazy Hawaii-gal" think you're part Polynesian...promise.

MsG: *blinks* I can't believe school started up again earlier this week for you (and everyone else who is going back to school). YIPES!

RIMG: *hugs* Still waiting on you driving down here for that dinner and a movie.

Co-pilot! Yay! Nice to see you online again! Hope things are going well in your corner of the 'verse.

Hi Mavs, VX, Hell's Kitten (dangit where do you get the pretty kimonos, katanas, and did I see a dai-katana once? *drool*), JQ (the roasted chicken was just too weird *shudder*), Mircea, LA (hope you're feeling better), DTH, Magda (hope your back is better now), YingYang, Asorta...and everyone else I've probably forgotten or missed.

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, January 5, 2007 10:48 AM

My dad said I was allowed to date as soon as I could spar with him and win on something like a regular basis. Turned out to be when I was 15, though I didn't really date for another two years (unless you count a grand total of one when I was 16) because... well, I just didn't.
My dad's a rather paranoid and protective guy.
My mom, on the other hand, said that if I didn't know how to make good choices by the time I was 16 and had my own car, then she hadn't done her job right and there was nothing she could do to stop me. I think this was very wise of her. Turns out she did do her job right and much frustration was avoided by her not trying to stop me from going out. So I bow to her wisdom; by the time someone can drive, they should be able to make a few reasoned choices. If they can't, they probably never will and you can't stop them and it's pointless to try.

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MAVOURNEEN

Friday, January 5, 2007 1:12 PM

Morning, Everyone.

Wow. First time in a long time there's been a new ponderable as soon as I log on! *smiles*

Tidbit is only 5. I have a while to go before I need to think about him dating.
However, I know from my friends who have older kids that girls today are much more likely to call pre-teen boys than they were in my day. Maybe I only have 7 years or so before Carson starts getting phone calls from girls. *ACK!*

I will need to think about this before answering further...but my first thought may be he can date around 14 or 15 unchaperoned. Maybe. *Double ACK!*

Rainy miserable day this AM. Supposed to be very warm this afternoon. 70 degrees by tomorrow. Global warming! Hmmph! I want snow. Not as much as PR has had to deal with, but I want winter!

Coffee time! Back soon.

TRISTAN

Friday, January 5, 2007 1:46 PM

Morning, all!
Nice new digs, Nico...thanks!

Hmm...what age would I let my children date...well, I think I have to agree with Mav here. Unchaperoned around 14 or 15. By unchaperoned I mean I would take them wherever they were going and pick them up afterwards...or let the other parents do the same. And yes, it would be the same for both the boy and girl.

Qing ren!

Wonderful idea, there, Mav....coffee!

I'll be on the front desk today, so (surprise) I may not be around too much.

Good morning to those that I will miss!

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CHRISMOORHEAD

Friday, January 5, 2007 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
"Girly"??

I have never - in my entire life - been called, thought of, referred to, or imagined as "girly."

This amuses, yet... I'm kind of... insulted. (?)

As well you should be, being girly is a horribly bad thing to be! Arnold Schwarzenegger and I agree on this point. Maybe I'm just a meat head, but when I see all your photos of you playing dress up with your skirts and everything, I think girly.

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Ah. Since you know me so well, I can see how you're comfortable saying this.

Of course I am. If I wasn't, wouldn't be the all knowing omnipotent being that controls time and space, which I am.

Ok, so I never got the photos up last night. FFF.net server was bugging out big time, I actually tried starting the Male and Female Imponderables Thread myself, but no dice.

I brought up the question on the last thread of what singular accomplishment have people been putting off for a long time that they still really want to do. From what I saw, I didn't really get any answers (Cept for Mav and MSG). I hope some people have had more time to maul it over and figure it out. Here's mine:

I've talked about falling an animal with a knife for a long time. Many people are familiar with the notion that "hunting" with firearms is anything but fair, and I feel much the same way about it. Hunting with that much of an advantage should be reserved for survival situations.

This past Sunday at aprx. 0545, I snuck up on and chased down a doe, bringing it to rest with nothing but my buck knife. It was a clean kill, directly to the heart, and I felt what it was like to have something die for real, right in front of me, holding it and feeling it's body give out. There's no other experience to match it.

I've since skinned and butchered the animal, using every part of it that I could think to use. These are pictures of me with the beast's hide.

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I feel more prepared for battle now than ever before. In these past days I have felt the optimism of the invincible. I know that someday I'll take it in the field, that's my destiny. The Old Father has already woven the skein of my life, and I know that it's cut abruptly, but for anyone who's expressed concern for me this time around, I promise you all that it wont be anytime soon.

But for more Earthly matters: I wouldn't "let" my child go on dates until they were 18. But I know children have ways around those things. If I ever did have a child, I know I'd raise them very strictly with high expectations, and that they'd probably end up piercing their nose and hating me by the time they were 13. But, we're talking ideals here, right? Yeah, no dating, no drinking, no caffeine, etc. Instead, pushups, running and forced hydration.

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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkyries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

TRISTAN

Friday, January 5, 2007 3:06 PM

CMH, nice showing there! Thank you for sharing that experience with us. The photos are great, too.
I have thought about your ponder, and while there are several things I would like to do that I haven't (spear-hunting a boar is among them, oddly enough), the one thing I would to accomplish is a little less mundane than yours...I want to walk Ireland. I visited Dublin for eight days in '98, and have wanted to go back ever since. One of those days I spent at Tara, and I had the chance to walk for several miles around the countryside. I want to take several months and just walk.

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MSG

Friday, January 5, 2007 3:10 PM

See now that's real hunting. None of this hiding and ambushing the poor creature from miles away to get something "cool" to put on your wall. HUGS CMH and snazzy pics. I don't generally approve of killing animals,like you I agree survival situation is about it, and use of every part means it's not just that lame killng for "fun" nonsense...Anyway, how soon are you shipping out darlin?

HUGS and morning to all.

Hell's Kitten I share your sense of vague insult at the term girly...I wouldn't say it's seriously insulting, but mildly yes.. We have a teacher here who I was helping get his act together, but I kinda passed it off after we were discussing how I make my room smell nice using wallflowers from Bath and Body Works and he sai " aw you girls and your little lotions...that's so cute" Pondered punching him in the kidney, but decided that would be unprofessional.

Age I would let my kid date. 12 with me there( kind of a group thing going to movies or having a party) solo at 15.

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

KELKHIL

Friday, January 5, 2007 3:12 PM

CMh I agree with you on the "sport" of hunting. I do not hunt because I think that if a person needs countless rounds to take down an unsuspecting animal there is really no sport involved.

Although I was looking through a hunting Mag a few years ago and found one trip that I would concider. It was spear hunting for Bear. Now that would be a sport!

As far as what I have always wanted to do but never got around to. I guess there are a few. I want to BASE jump the mackinac Bridge here in Mich. Learn to surf. There are others but the options a not out there to accomplish yet.

So if ya'll here about some moron jumping off a perfectly good bridge in Mich. it very well might be me!

Kelkhil

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RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, January 5, 2007 3:37 PM

mornin' Imponderables. Several threads worth of replies to follow:

Mexican music by kilted men on bagpipes? I must hear this.

The only real resolutions I made were to try and be healthier in all aspects of my life, and to take more time for myself. So far it seems to be going well, as I have this whole weekend to myself with nothing to do.

I am really interested in the Browncoat cruise, I think it is a spectacular idea. I need to look into the money and the dates and such, as budgeting for things this year has been made a bit more difficult.

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
Oh! Also?
Sir Ian McKellen.
Is.
Magneto. !!

I am split on this one, as Gandalf comes just as readily to mind when his name is mentioned. Along those lines though, Kevin Spacey will always be Kaiser Soze, Billy Connolly will always be El Duce, and Michael Chiklis will always be Vic Mackey, at least in my mind.

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Originally posted by msg:
Ok I have a ponder. How old is too old for kid stuff? (

like how old before you have to stop playing with bubbles or

jumping in puddles)

Never. There is no such thing as 'too old'.

MSG - loved the guy rules!

One thing I really want to do is go back to Europe. I threw a coin in the Trevi Fountain, which means I will at least get to go back there, but I want to see and visit most of the countries over there, most especially Ireland, Scotland, Germany, Holland. Really all of them besides France.
EDIT: Tristan, walking Ireland for several months sounds like heaven.

I think that the teens are a good time to let kids start dating, at least in a one-on-one sense. The group dates when they are younger will eventually get old, and like CMH pointed out if they are kept from doing it then they are going to find a way. I would rather help them, and be there to explain things to them, then let them do something that could be a lot more dangerous just because I told them they couldn't. I also agree with Tristan that there would be no difference in boys and girls.

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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
RIMG: *hugs* Still waiting on you driving down here for that dinner and a movie.

I'll be stopping by there on my tour of the country. I'll be the travelling Browncoat.

Hi to everyone who is here, and I may not be back on until after I get home from the fed job today, as I am trying to be good and do a little work. I miss you guys, especially since it's been a week or more since I was seriously active on the boards.

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