John Edwards announces his run for Office
POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Monday, January 8, 2007 01:17
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I'm so excited about this, I woke up yesterday morning to the good news, I've been hoping that John Edwards would run I think he's the Democrates best chance of getting the Presidency.
and more importantly Reps know this and they are scared of him. Listen to any republican talk shows they will play up Hilary Clinton, and Barack Obama, and Rudy Giuliani , because they know none of them have got a snowballs chance in hell of winning. But they won't with John Edwards, and this is a man who actually stands for something, he's one of the few who are actually talking about issues that effect of here at home, like poverty, and about our tarnished image around the world and about the war.
http://johnedwards.com/
so what do yall think about John Edwards
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I think he's every bit as much a political whore as most of em, he just hides it better.
My "Dream Ticket" would be Ron Paul/Dennis Kucinich on an independant party flag (although I would settle for Libertarian) for '08... but given the current state of affairs i'd even take Palpatine/Vader 2008... at least some COMPETENT evil dictators for once.
I think Hillary shot herself in the foot with most sensible folk when immediately after she decided to seriously consider running for the oval office, instead of campaigning HERE, she goes running off to a certain foreign-power-who-shall-not-be-named to get THEIR approval for it.
That action in and of itself completely sank her chances with folks who are fed up with our so-called reps being beholden to a foreign power instead of their constituents, and on top of her associations with big pharma, which is becoming more despised every day, she doesn't stand a chance.
If I was gonna run a woman for prez, it would be Jennifer M Granholm, but she doesn't qualify for the same reason Ahhhhnold doesn't - and if THAT ever changes, she'd hand him his ass in any debate venue you could imagine.
I won't get into details over Obama, but basically the righty-whitey lynchmob mentality still runs washington, and he's just not gonna get past that without changing the entire system from the ground up, something that can only come from inside it, which he ain't, and never will be.
And I wouldn't want Rudy near an unattended candy machine, much less a political office.
Eddie there might talk a good game, but there's been talk, there will always BE talk, I will not stand behind a candidate unless and until they're willing to put some boot to some ass and play hard enough to get the job done... and the only two who HAVE done it, and in Dennis's case, paid a damned heavy price for it, are mentioned above.
Until Eddie joins that august company, he won't be gettin my vote.
-Frem
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This is the same worthless piece of go se that shamelessly claimed a vote for him and John Flippy Kerry would allow those w/ spinal injuries like Christopher Reeve to walk again, for their position on Embryonic Stem Cell research.
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"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." - John Edwards
I wouldn't buy a used car from this slime ball.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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I'm not even pro-Edwards, but I feel inclined to respond for some reason.
AU, why not just say (because we all know you're thinking it) "there's not a single Dem that I would vote for because I'm so blatantly partisan that it's scary." Nowhere in that quote does it suggest that Edwards is claiming that if elected, magical wish-granting leprechauns are going to cure the paralyzed. So then, how is it shameless? Let's break it down like a rational, nonpartisan reader:
In fact, the exact quote starts with...
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If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do
"work that we can do" = our country is capable of great breakthroughs in science
"work that we will do" = we'll stop being scared of Jebus and throw some cash at researchers and help them make discoveries
"people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk" = I'm optimistic if that happens we can find cures for these folks who deserve it (my God, he was Superman, for Christ sakes!)
How can that be a sleazy message? Looks hopeful, to me. You're guilty of the same thing you accuse everyone else of - bashing based on perty lines. I bet I could find a dozen threads where you accuse others of bashing Bush when he says something positive and people call it sleazy. Here you do the same thing. This is a man saying that if we're elected, we're going to try and work toward cures - not too different than the stem-cell debate that changed the fate of Missouri's election this year.
But hey, God forbid someone tries to do something positive. Apparently, republicans believe the people with the diseases should just cure themselves.
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This son of a mill worker is all bull. I am a native of NC. First makes his money suing the Tobbacco industry. Now dead. Suing the medical industry. BC and BS great rates. Before I left NC in 2002 from layoff on the NC Buisness Review Journal on PBS he said he wanted free trade with Commie China yes mill jobs will go but will get 400 hi tech jobs which never appeared. He is for Nafta and Gatt. Jesse Helms and Jesse Jackson against both. Ok he is married to old money in Pittsburgh. Now I was working in Pitt at the time of the election run. He had the unions put out with what he was saying George Bush is stealing your job. GW never took my job. That's a lie, he said he wanted to bring good union jobs back into Ohio not what he said in NC.
His sound bites sound great when your 19 on a college campus. I do not attack any politician personally not even Bill. I will say to be president of THE USA you need to at least served in the military one requirement I believe. But since G H W Bush 41 we have not had any good canidates on either side.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by piratejenny:
I'm so excited about this, I woke up yesterday morning to the good news, I've been hoping that John Edwards would run I think he's the Democrates best chance of getting the Presidency.
I agree. No chance at all.
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7% , this is really much more simple than you're trying to make it out to be. The thread was about Edwards, so my reply was directed at him.
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we'll stop being scared of Jebus and throw some cash at researchers and help them make discoveries
As an atheist, I'm not concerned w/ throwing $$ at Jebus, but using science and the power of the Fed Gov't in an honest, pragmatic and sensible way to benefit humanity. Embryonic Stem Cells are next to worthless. Why folks don't get that through their thick skulls infurriates me. Those who buy into the possibilities are nothing but lemmings being lead by a piper. Adult Stem Cells offer far more HONEST and legit cures in OUR life time. It is supremely shameless to suggest that ESC's will help anyone any time soon.
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"people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk" = I'm optimistic if that happens we can find cures for these folks who deserve it (my God, he was Superman, for Christ sakes!)
Chris Reeves is dead. John Edwards was saying that to a man who died soon after those remarks were made. How heartless is that ? And so what if he PLAYED Superman? He's more deserving than one of my family members ? Or the neighbor down your street ? It seems all the world that you're kidding, but the way you're selling it , it just doesn't seem like you were.
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How can that be a sleazy message? Looks hopeful, to me. You're guilty of the same thing you accuse everyone else of - bashing based on perty lines. I bet I could find a dozen threads where you accuse others of bashing Bush when he says something positive and people call it sleazy. Here you do the same thing. This is a man saying that if we're elected, we're going to try and work toward cures - not too different than the stem-cell debate that changed the fate of Missouri's election this year.
But hey, God forbid someone tries to do something positive. Apparently, republicans believe the people with the diseases should just cure themselves
It's the snake oil salesmen, the bogus 'faith healer' approach by Edwards that pisses me off most. Even you can see it, but you're too much of a myrmidon to admit that I'm right here. Were ANY politician to say the same, I'd call him/ her out on it as well. This has to with shameless pandering, and manipulating those in dire need, just to score a few political points. Nothing more. Edwards cares no more about curing those in wheelchairs than he does going back to work in 'diddy's mill' . It's a con game, and one where Edwards is toying w/ the hopes and dreams of those he claims he's trying to help. Sorry you can't see it for what it really is.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:You gotta love the logic. No research is being done in ESC because there's no money for research so no breakthroughs have been made. No Breakthroughs have been made which proves we are right not to fund ESC. Wow. Just wow.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It is supremely shameless to suggest that ESC's will help anyone any time soon.
Quote:You're pissed off because Christopher Reeves died AFTER the comments? I can see that. This Edwards fella was obviously a heartless bastard for not checking what was about to happen in the future with his Crystal Ball.
Chris Reeves is dead. John Edwards was saying that to a man who died soon after those remarks were made. How heartless is that ?
Quote:Welcome to politics. Every politician does this, I believe the partisan trick is too only recognise it when it's coming from the other side. I've seen far far far worse than this coming from Bush.
It's a con game, and one where Edwards is toying w/ the hopes and dreams of those he claims he's trying to help. Sorry you can't see it for what it really is.
Que "Bush would never stoop to that level, Bush is so great, how dare you, you're nothing but an idiot political hack, etc etc"
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
As an atheist, I'm not concerned w/ throwing $$ at Jebus, but using science and the power of the Fed Gov't in an honest, pragmatic and sensible way to benefit humanity.
No, but the fundies are scared of Jesus, and the current admins used their fear of science to scare up votes in the last election. Whether you are not concerned with Jesus and support research is beside the point - many are, and oppose any form of stem cell research for that reason (and that reason only).
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Embryonic Stem Cells are next to worthless. Why folks don't get that through their thick skulls infurriates me. Those who buy into the possibilities are nothing but lemmings being lead by a piper. Adult Stem Cells offer far more HONEST and legit cures in OUR life time. It is supremely shameless to suggest that ESC's will help anyone any time soon.
First, they are next to worthless at this time, and that isn't in dispute. But a growing consensus of researchers believes the potential for vast discovery is there. And I don't know how old you are, but I'm only in my 30's. I'd like to live another 40 or 50 years, and to say that ESC research won't yield cures in that amount of time is silly. What's the harm in pumping money and scientists into that research? Many awesome discoveries came out of projects relating to a bigger one. Who knows what we can find on the way?
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Chris Reeves is dead. John Edwards was saying that to a man who died soon after those remarks were made.
Yes, Edwards tapped into his magical ESP powers and said that to him, knowing he was soon to die. That may be the most retarded thing I've ever heard you say - right up there with PJenny in the other thread.
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And so what if he PLAYED Superman? He's more deserving than one of my family members ? Or the neighbor down your street ? It seems all the world that you're kidding, but the way you're selling it , it just doesn't seem like you were.
Superman is a cultural icon. Is (was) Reeves more important than any of those people to you? No. But as a cultural icon, wouldn't it be great if the man who was a hero to the world, and after his accident a hero to the disabled, be able to walk again? My God, the hope that would have given the world would have been stunning.
But I want to bring something to your attention. You're over in other threads praising the death of Saddam. To the average Iraqi, is his hanging more important than when their brother got killed by accident by American forces? Or blown up in a car bomb by terrorists who weren't there when we started? It's amazing how you can sit here in one thread and get your righteous indignation on about saying one person isn't more important than another, then in an entirely different thread say that people should understand how certain people are more important than others, and be proud how one person was taken out at the cost of tens of thousands of lives. It's hypocracy.
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It's the snake oil salesmen, the bogus 'faith healer' approach by Edwards that pisses me off most. Even you can see it, but you're too much of a myrmidon to admit that I'm right here.
I said at the beginning of this thread that Edwards wasn't my favorite person, and for the record I didn't think he belonged on the ticket with Kerry in the first place. I don't think he has a chance in 08, either. Why you think I'm a loyal servant of Edwards is beyond me - wait, no it isn't. You want to pigeonhole me as a partisan hack. Sorry, that's you.
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Were ANY politician to say the same, I'd call him/ her out on it as well.
Really? Bush said he was going to transform the mid-east into a democratic place by attacking Iraq. You still follow him happy-slappy down that magical fairy tale, long after people said it was a disaster. I guess you just can't recognize all those snake-oil salesmen, can you AU?
Edwards made a thousand goofs and misquotes and "snake-oil" pitches in the last election cycle. But you, in you
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