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Buffy season 7 vs. Angel season 5: which do you like better?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, December 30, 2006 00:10
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Saturday, December 2, 2006 2:41 PM

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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
(Oh, and there's no question as to when SMG looked hotter, S1 or 7--1, hands down.)


Since we're getting all two-dimensional and surface-y here, there's no question as to who looks hotter, Jessica Alba or SMG... JA hands down, boo .


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Saturday, December 2, 2006 3:32 PM

angel finished much better than it started, but was nonetheless a very pale comparison to any buffy season...

and imo spike should have had hist last moment of buffy glory.... and no more.

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:12 PM

buffy was sexiest in season 2/3. I have this theory that it's when her hair's curly that she's a bitch, which started midway through season 4, about the time she was getting together with riley. then season 5, nasty over-coiffed ringlettes, therefore: bitch. season 6, whiny bitch, mean to spike until she gets it cut, then she's not so bad, and 7 it was mostly straight I think and she was nicer then too. see? airtight




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Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Since we're getting all two-dimensional and surface-y here, there's no question as to who looks hotter, Jessica Alba or SMG... JA hands down, boo .


Well, I'm all about two-dimensional and surface-y, so maybe that's one reason I didn't stick with Dark Angel too long--Alba's never really done much for me. Just a pale imitation of Dushku...

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:19 PM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
see? airtight

OMG, you're....you're....right!!!

Verrrrrry observant, Charlie, good show!

Straight-haired Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 2, 2006 9:26 PM

I make good use of my time


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Saturday, December 2, 2006 9:35 PM

like with double posting

la la la la laaa


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Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:33 AM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
angel S5, easily, I think it was the best season of buffy or angel

but I know I'm in a minority there



I'm right there with ya, Charlie.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think it boils down to Destiny, Smile Time and Not Fade Away against Conversations With Dead People, Lies My Parents Told Me and Chosen.



What? No Hole in the World on that list, Chris? For shame.

Throw in Damage and Lineage, along with Hamilton, Lindsey, and Spike, S5 of Angel wins, no contest.

And I can't state enough how much I love Not Fade Away. In my opinion one of most powerful pieces of television ever made. Both Chosen and Not Fade Away are fantastic statements regarding the themes of their respective series: Buffy overcoming seemingly insurmountable odds, Angel's never ending struggle for redemption. For me,the reason I've most seen stated for disliking Not Fade Away (lack of closure) is the reason I find it so compelling. There is no beating the Big Bad, because the bad just keeps coming. How you face it is the important thing. "If nothing we do matters, all the matters is what we do."

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).

I guess that's my long winded way of saying I liked Angel's finale more because it's a stronger commentary on the human condition, and it really emphasizes how much Angel has grown over the course of the series. He's no longer seeing his struggle as something with an end, a goal, but as a process, something to be confronted every day.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:08 PM

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Originally posted by EpicJoe:

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).


Buffy & Co. beat The First?
When did this happen? No one sent me the memo.
In Chosen, they plugged up a hole, no more. The First was thwarted- that one time- in a major attempt at upping the stakes. It's still out there, powerful as ever, it seemed to me.



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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by EpicJoe:

By contrast Chosen, while a fitting end for Buffy and superb reitteration of its feminist themes, rings a bit hollow for me, mainly because the First Evil is not something beatable. It's an intangible, a part of life, and you don't beat life, you deal (an issue dealt with wonderfully in S6).


Buffy & Co. beat The First?
When did this happen? No one sent me the memo.
In Chosen, they plugged up a hole, no more. The First was thwarted- that one time- in a major attempt at upping the stakes. It's still out there, powerful as ever, it seemed to me.



Watching Chrisisall



I didn't say destroyed or permanently defeated. By beaten I didn't actually mean gone. I'm talking about that idea that evil is something you can just lock away in a hole and not worry about anymore. Sure, Buffy has to end on a win, because that's what the show is about, and I'm not saying it's a bad way to go. It's just not as powerful a statement to me as Not Fade Away, that's all.

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