Is 'Kramer' a racist?
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 05:04
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I don't think he's a racist, he just lost his temper big time. He didn't even know what he was saying, it just happened that the guys that pissed him off were black and so he went on a black hating rampage.
I in no way condone his actions, but I can understand them, and I believe him when he says he's sorry.
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Michael Richards To Redeem Racist Tirade By Bashing Bush
http://politicaltherapy.blogspot.com/2006/11/michael-richards-to-redee
m-racist.html
By the way, for those can't figure it out. It's a joke.
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I still can't figure you why anybody cares. It's not like his opinion is meaningful.
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Quote:No. Not necessarily. There are lots of good reasons to support your family that have nothing to with whether you’re an anti-Semite. Mel Gibson’s father is a not a public figure. There’s only one reason for the media to be interested in Gibson’s father, and that is to find dirt on Mel Gibson’s Conservative Catholic opinions.
Originally posted by SimonWho:
Actually this is the Information Age and we do condemn those who support those who deny the holocaust, as Mel has done.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I've been to comedy clubs, and anyone who has will tell you - don't take on the comic. Why ? Most seasoned comics will dress you down and ridicule you to no end... Richards, for what ever reason, just couldn't deal. Maybe it was a bad day, maybe stress from struggling since Seinfeld, any of 1000 different reasons that have nothing to do w/ the 2 black guys heckling him that night. But he crossed the line, imo, and dug a huge hole for himself.
No one has mentioned this yet, and you provide a great lead-in... in the immediate aftermath of the event there were a lot of actors AND comedians commenting on it, and the overall consensus was that Richards was not prepared for the ad-lib nature of stand-up. He was being heckled because he wasn't very funny, and he responded unprofessionally - because that isn't his forum.
That being said, I think it's a little disgusting how many people here are supporting the notion that blacks somehow get away with more in life (and crime) and others are therefore allowed to be racist towards them.
example...
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...there's a unspoken rule that says blacks can't be criticized. Not for the high % of fatherless families, not for Katrina, not for murdering an ex wife and a innocent waiter. It's not their fault. They didn't do it. To even suggest they're in the least bit culpable makes you a racist. That seems to be partly what was boiling up in Richard's mind...
The idea that people are saying "oh it's not his fault he murdered someone, he's black" is so ludicrous that this is as much as I can say: take a look at some of the statistics of our criminal justics system and then say that again.
Yes, there are environmental, both local and corporate, factors that need to be remedied - our country still functions with a deep-seated institution of racism. Just like our actions overseas have angered terror groups, we need to look at the source of the problem if we're ever going to remedy it. THAT BEING SAID, every individual and every group ought to be held to the same standards of decency and justice. There was no excuse for Richards' violent verbal attack, just as there is no excuse for terror attacks. I hate to liken two very, very different events, but I'm hearing the same rhetoric here as I did immediately after Sept 11. What I want to say is You can be a "liberal" OR a "conservative" and examine the causes of racism and hate while still holding the perpetrators responsible.
Don't make faces.
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I still can't figure you why anybody cares. It's not like his opinion is meaningful.
You're right, it's not, but it was a public outburst which demonstrated that the word "nigger" is still very much a part of some people's vocabulary AND mindset. Plenty of people lose their temper every day, but here is evidence millions of people can watch that old-fashioned racism still resides in the back of some people's minds.
Don't make faces.
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It's interesting, Finn was accusing people of Anti-Semitism when they had problems with Israels tactics not so long ago, yet when a Conservative Christian is caught it must be media 'Liberal bias' (and when talking American media on the whole that has about as much Liberal bias as George Bush). Go for double standards.
It is interesting. I think we call that hypocrisy.
Myself, I weighed it and decided to dismiss Mel of any wrong-doing, whereas I had to let Mr. Alan (along with Mr. Webb) sink.
As for Mr. Richards, he's done for.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
or they wouldn't understand the words necessary to fully illustrate the utter bull of this situation and others like it.
Yeah, cause all of us here on FFF.net are just plum stupid
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... that's all you took from my message. I don't think anybody here is stupid FutureMissFillon... Just very tunnel visioned and eaisly manipulated.
But that doesn't speak to Firefly fans. It's the human condition.
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