Is 'Kramer' a racist?
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 05:04
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i couldnt see the video, but he used to appear regularly on the Bill Handel(kfian640.com) show in LA, and this shows motive is political incorrectness, and i noticed the two share a lot of charachteristics. i havent seen or heard of what he said specifically, but if he was making a bad joke, then maybe it should be looked at in that context or something.
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Oh, yeah? You want to fight about it?
Anytime whiskey breath. I'll send you and your green teeth mother back to the land of fairies. Long Shanks had you potato pickers figured out. Rosie O'Donnell is one your halloween queens. Whoo Baby love those Irish snaggle tooth keg bellies. Hmm baby the trailor's rockin tonight. So young so much anger.
Like its gonna matter.
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"I like bashing Irish people cause its fun." You like having people laugh at you ????? : raised eyebrows :
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***Warning - There is a lot of swearing in this post, so for the moms and the weak of heart, don't come to me about my language if you choose to read this. This issue infuriates me and I swear simply because I don't know how else to fully explain how infuriated I am. Let's face it... if I was to use big words, most likely nobody would read past the first sentence or they wouldn't understand the words necessary to fully illustrate the utter bull of this situation and others like it. There are other things in here that somebody will probably find offensive. I'm surely going to use the "N" word a lot, but I will not be censoring myself at all past where you see five stars (like this:*****). I stand by my words and I will never apologize for them.... so don't bother asking.*****
Michael Richards is not a racist. At least you can't tell from this one little outburst... Consider the circumstances. He was fucking pissed off and he had every fucking right to get angry. Could he have chosen better words? If you're the liberal Newspeak.... ahem.. politically correct media the the answer is a simple yes.
Maybe looking beyond the political correct bullshit, people may realise that somebody who would never even think to use such words to explain somebody may have been driven to that breaking point. How many times have you done something that you wished you hadn't when you were infuriated to the point you couldn't see straight. It is possible that some things have been happening in his life that would make him more prone to this behavior like somebody mentioned earlier. Nobody in here can say that there haven't been days where the littlest thing could sent them off. It happens to the best of us. It's not as if Michael went into the comedy club and said something crass like "oh great, we've got a couple of Niggers in the audience". At least we don't have a video of him doing that. I don't think that many people in this country even think this way anymore except in movies that are still designed to make white people look like intolerant racists and the media who perpetuates this belief.
Michael didn't walk into the situation with that mindset. Truth be told, those knuckle heads were acting like a couple of Niggers. Yeah, I said it. Niggers. There isn't a thing that Michael Richards said there that wasn't true. 50 years ago, they probably would have found themselves a the wrong end of a noose for that behavior. I'm not saying that that fact is justified, on the contrary I think it's abhorrent, but it is still a fact nonetheless.
Take color out of this issue and all Michael did was explode on two ignorant ass-hats and he called it like it was. They were ignorant fucks who probably believe that because of the color of their skin and the hardships their people once knew they're entitled to do anything or say anything or behave any way their impulses desire in any situation, while in the mean time they most likely sit at home and play playstation all day and beat off like a majority of idiot American kids grow up to do. Anybody who goes into a movie theatre and hears "Skeet Skeet Skeet" on a cellphone during the climax of the movie knows what I'm talking about, especially when they turn around to tell them to turn off the phone and they're staring some 17 year old punk white kid in the eyes. It's the fucking blatent inconsiderateness that the mainstream pop rap culture perpetuates and it's that attitude of entitlement and those who choose to portray it and spread it that keeps rubbing people the wrong way and doesn't allow any real progress for racial healing. (And anybody who wants to argue me about the rap and tell me that I don't listen to it, feel free. I listen to a lot of it. Fuck the Police is a very important song in American culture. "Rap" today is neutered and is all about the bling bling and being obnoxious and treating women like objects.)
You know what I have to say to people who feel entitled... to those people who play right into the hands of a Government and Media who want
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It isn't just the use of the word "nigger."
He also said, "Fifty years ago we’d have you upside down with a fucking fork up your ass."
The point is that he was angry, he wanted to be insulting, and he chose to resort to racial vituperations.
The interesting thing to me is that he insulted black people worse than Mel Gibson insulted Jews. (Alluding to lynching is, to me, a lot worse than blame for all the wars in the world.) And yet Richards seems to be less vilified than Gibson.
Are we, as a society, more tolerant of racial indignities against blacks than Jews?
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Quote:I think it is probably that the media is biased to the Left. Gibson was more vilified because it was widely known that he was a self-proclaim Conservative Catholic, and in the eyes of much of the media, which is prepared largely by people of a Liberal persuasion, someone who is perceived as a conservative catholic is far more likely to be criticized then someone who is not perceived that way.
Originally posted by canttakesky:
Are we, as a society, more tolerant of racial indignities against blacks than Jews?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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The reason why Mel got a much bigger reaction is nothing to do with blacks, Jews or relative values. It's because he's a genuine A-List superstar who has made suspect comments about Jews before whereas Michael Richards is someone who had just one successful role in his career.
People will read 50 stories about Mel, but only a couple about Richards. That's how the media works.
Yes, he was being de facto racist because he picked up on those guys being black. Not that they were rude or obnoxious which is actually a pretty common behaviour at comedy clubs, normally followed by the professionally trained comedian absolutely crucifying the heckler (without recourse to racial stereotypes). Seriously, stand-ups responding to hecklers is practically an art form in itself. It was just that Richards was found utterly wanting.
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Yeah, the hecklers deserved a serious put-down... but for being jerks. If you resort to racial epithets then you ARE a racist, because you're lumping everyone of color/ language/ gender into one big box.
And you know what? I think EVERYBODY is prejudiced in one way or another. I know I am. And I'm sure that everybody who looks at me see me categorically too. It's a question of HOW MUCH you're prejudiced. Some people are quietly racist. They would never say out loud what they're thinking... but when it comes to renting, hiring, admitting, loaning, or selling to, certain people start off nearer the bottom of the list and they have to work extra-hard to gain in ranking. It's an unfortunate and undeniable truth.
I don't think simple "integration" helps. Just look at the Serbs and Croats, the Hutus and the Tutsis, the Sunnis and the Shias, the German Xtians and German Jews... you can rub elbows for generations and resort to genocide in less than a year.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
The reason why Mel got a much bigger reaction is...because he's a genuine A-List superstar who has made suspect comments about Jews before...
You claim Gibson's made "suspect comments about Jews before". Could you please tell us what they are. If not then you are a liar. Liar!
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Racist or just SERIOUSLY pissed off, 'cause, he'll never EVER live Kramer down. I don't know, there may have been some over reaction there, but who am I to say.
just an after thought, most dictionaries define a "Nigger" as, "a lazy, insolent and stupid person." Not as a derogatory term used by idiots who thought they were better than other people not of their race.
Please, don't think I'm racist, I'm just citing facts.
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