Affirmative Action
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Thursday, November 9, 2006 23:36
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I think the person best for the job should get it. I don't care what color or sexual orientation or gender they are.
I disagree. A hot bi-sexual large breasted latina is much better suited for some jobs then say...Nancy Pelosi, I'm fairly certain it works the other way around too.
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Quote:I was more talking of the idea that root causes should be tackled rather than plastering over the gaping holes to make us feel better. I used 'Black people have less access to good education' because it was an example that had already been brought up.
Originally posted by kaneman:
"Here's a radical idea, if, for instance, black people have access to a lower standard of education why don't we improve their standard of education"
Here in the N.E. more money is spent on urban schools(per student) than in other systems, the teachers are paid more, but the students do much worse than the others. Why? Is the standard of education any less? Is it more? Let's face it Urban people(White, black, Latino) don't push their children as hard. Bill Cosby was right.....
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In general, I'm not a fan of affirmative action. But the REAL problem isn't affirmative action, it's the sometimes life-and-death struggle for a job that can provide a safe neighborhood, medical insurance and a good school for your kids that is causing all the anxiety and strife.
If we weren't all forced to compete at the bottom of the barrel for scraps while the unimagineably wealthy play with our jobs like pieces on a chess board, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by Kaneman:
Here in the N.E. more money is spent on urban schools(per student) than in other systems, the teachers are paid more, but the students do much worse than the others. Why? Is the standard of education any less? Is it more? Let's face it Urban people(White, black, Latino) don't push their children as hard. Bill Cosby was right.....
I wouldn't say that necessarily. Having lived in both the inner city and the suburbs, I can say that there is a wide variety of parents who have no interest in their children's education. It's called absentee parenting. Location isn't always a factor.
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Originally posted by Hero:
I think that the Constitution requires you to make room for the irrational opinions, even if some of the rational ones must be excluded.
Not to go all schoolyard, but it's my thread, so there.
Just kidding. 
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Citz
"talking of the idea that root causes should be tackled rather than plastering over the gaping holes to make us feel better"
I would agree that the root causes are the problem. I would say government has tried enough to solve them. It should now be in the hands of parents, teachers, family, and friends to put children on a prosperous path. If they don't, their adult children may live with them forever
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Originally posted by Kaneman:
Here in the N.E. more money is spent on urban schools(per student) than in other systems, the teachers are paid more, but the students do much worse than the others. Why? Is the standard of education any less? Is it more? Let's face it Urban people(White, black, Latino) don't push their children as hard. Bill Cosby was right.....
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I wouldn't say that necessarily. Having lived in both the inner city and the suburbs, I can say that there is a wide variety of parents who have no interest in their children's education. It's called absentee parenting. Location isn't always a factor.
Deep,
I am generalizing here. I am not saying EVERYONE that lives in an urban setting is more lax than their suburban counter-parts. As a whole it is a true statement. And I am not saying it is a color issue.
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Quote:I agree completely.
Originally posted by babywiththepower:
Don't get me wrong, when AA was conceived, I think it was necessary. But has grown into a monster beyond it's original scope (very much like unions, welfare and social security) and control.
And on a personal note, it would drive me batshit crazy to think that I got my job just because I was a chick. That would be the equivalent of saying that I wasn't actually good / capable enough to perform the job, but they couldn't hire the Right Man for the job because they needed a dame to fill a quota.
The whole notion is just f***ing archaic.
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