Tonight's Angel was Beautiful
POSTED BY: Knibblet
UPDATED: Friday, February 13, 2004 15:54
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Originally posted by Knibblet:
... how old does quoting "Laugh In" lines make me?
Quote:I totally agree. I watched Smallville before Angel, and when
It was the quiet ending - the way the phone call would actually come from the hospital - the 'realness' of a completely unreal situation.
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they did the closing scene with Jonathan Kent maybe dying, I saw it coming a good minute before, and it was SO cliche, with a slow-mo shot of a plate dropping, the whole thing just rang so false.
But with Angel, it felt completely real, and heartbreaking. I'm still absorbing it.
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Oh, by the way...
Totally off topic, but still on Angel. The episode Wednesday on TNT at 5, I don't know which one it was, but it was right after "Five By Five", the girl from Law and Order and the police were all combing over the room where Wes was tortured. They were all wearing blue gloves. Exactly (and I mean EXACTLY) like the gloves the bad guys on Firefly wear.
Weird, huh?
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Ah, but in defense of that Smallville scene,
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the line Jonathan gives when he has the heart attack in the barn is the same line Glenn Ford said when HIS J.K. had his fatal heart attack in the barn in Superman: The Movie.
That awareness of what had come before and very subtle nod to it impressed me.
"Bang."
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Quote:You're right, I always like it when they do that kind of thing. I really shouldn't have judged Smallville by Angel standards. I enjoy Smallville very much for what it is.
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That awareness of what had come before and very subtle nod to it impressed me.
Angel has just been SO good lately.
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You know, I'm mixed on the overall direction/quality of "Angel" lately. Cordelia's brief return reminded me of how much I miss her -- the her before she became whatever goddess she was before the Jasmine arc started.
I CERTAINLY love this season's lighter and more self-contained stories, compared to the horrors of last season, but I find myself longing for the simpler, and I think better, times of the first two or three three seasons. This moping about being corrupted by Wolfram & Hart ... well, duh. DO something about it, already.
Yeah, overall, I do like this season, and it's a great recovery from last season. I just feel it's a hair short of greatness. And with Cordy gone, I realize the only character left on the show I TRULY care about is Angel. I like the others, but none of them quite measure up to Cordelia, just as Eve seems like only a pale (literally) imitation of Lila.
But I feel like the show is on the right track, and am optimistic it can get even better.
"Bang."
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Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Ah, but in defense of that Smallville scene,Select to view spoiler:
the line Jonathan gives when he has the heart attack in the barn is the same line Glenn Ford said when HIS J.K. had his fatal heart attack in the barn in Superman: The Movie.
That awareness of what had come before and very subtle nod to it impressed me.
Really? I thought
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all that was said in Superman: The Movie was "Oh, no," and then he collapses.
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I live in LA, and on Tuesday I had my 32nd birthday party at the Cat & Fiddle, the pub where the gang was headed at the end of the episode. If only I'd been born on the 4th instead of the 3rd, I could've met them there...!
I miss Cordy and Lindsey already. I hope Lindsey isn't gone for good.
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Indy,
Damn. When I get home, I'll have to drop the Superman the Movie DVD into the gizmo and double-check. You may be right; now I'm not sure.
BTW, people, the Superman movie spec. ed. DVD has some of the most fun and interesting commentary I've ever heard (Donner and writer Tom Mankiewicz), sounding like two guys you'd overhear telling stories at the coolest cocktail party ever. Highly recommended.
I return you now to your regularly scheduled Angel/Cordelia thread ...
"Bang."
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Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, Joss, for making a liar out of me. I truly believed before I finished watching this ep a few minutes ago that Joss would never break that part of his formula.
I should have stuck with my original gut feeling when she pulled the curtain at the hospital. I knew it then, but the episode reeled me in so tightly that I completely forgot. Nice work.
Wow. The dialogue in this one really rocked. I especially loved:
Angel: I'm not letting anyone I care about go in there.
Spike: I'll go.
Angel: Okay.
I have a couple of issues, one small, one kinda large, though I may still find that things will change...
First, since when does Angel have any qualms about torturing Wolfram & Hart employees?? He did it before when Connor went missing. That whole scene just reeked of backing off because Eve was female. After last week's ep, that seemed totally anathema of the show.
I really do hope this thing with Lindsey isn't over. I'd hate to think they did this whole build up for just simple revenge. That kind of linear plotting is beneath this writing team.
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I was under the impression that it wasn't Charisma that wanted to leave the show, but rather the producers (or whoever's in charge) who made the decision to get rid of her.
Nope. You were under the wrong impression. In the interviews I read Charisma left for 2 reasons. 1) She felt there wasn't much left to do with the character (remember, she played it for seven years) and 2) She did not want to be on a full-time series after she had her baby.
I hope this isn't a wrap-up of the whole questioning their decision to work for W & H. It was, however, an incredibly beautiful wrap-up for Cordelia.
--Kala
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I realize that I LOVE this season because of all the references to other epsiodes. Yeah, there's always pop culture references, but I love it when they mention things that have happened earlier in the show and this episode had the most so far.
-Doyle
-"threw him out a window"
-Cordy and Angel meeting that one night
-Lindsey's hand cut off
etc.
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