Congressman quits after messages to teens found
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UPDATED: Thursday, October 5, 2006 05:35
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Are we acting surprised here people? Don't we all know that ALL politicians are lying, hypocritical, crooks. The worst being the Clinton / Bush political complex.
Jessie Jackson - robs the poor in the name of protecting them
George Bush - Preaches about education "No Child Left Behind"(enough said)
Bill Clinton......Aghh... forget this. You guys know that they are all scum bags, all rich, and all self serving. There is no difference between these politicians other than the bull shit they tell us they believe. They are one big party.
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There are a few exceptions and they deserve our support.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Former US Congressman Mark Foley, who has been embroiled in a scandal over sexually suggestive e-mails, says he is undergoing treatment for alcoholism.
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"I strongly believe that I am an alcoholic and have accepted the need for immediate treatment for alcoholism and other behavioural problems"
Mark Foley
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5399724.stm
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by citizen:
Republican Rep. Mark Foley resigned Friday from the House after sexually explicit instant message conversations with teenage congressional pages attributed to him surfaced.
Just wondering if this is what Hero means by superior Republican values?
Yes. This is a GREAT example of Republican values. You missed the most important section of the story you cited:
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Mark Foley resigned
Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.
Many Democrats have committed crimes and/or been caught acting in an inappropriate fashion with their subordinates and, with one notable exception (from New Jersey of all places), don't, in recent years anyway...taken professional responsibitlity for these personal failures.
When there is an (R) next to a person's name, they tend to resign in disgrace for the good of the party and the country after which its a private matter and should be handled with discretion within the limits of the law and media notwithstanding.
If this Congressman had a (D) then there would be a parade of excuses, claims of entrapment, vast right wing conspiracies, claims that this is private, and a vicious attack on the Page's and the Speaker's office for sending this to the proper authorities for investigation. It'd be a nice press conference...with Dany Glover and maybe Al Sharpton.
Lets not forget a certain Congressman whose murdered intern was so convieniantly made back page news by 9/11. He was a Democrat...and did not resign.
H
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Quote:I thought you'd support it...
Originally posted by Hero:
Yes. This is a GREAT example of Republican values. You missed the most important section of the story you cited
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by Hero:
Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.
Pull the other one, Hero, it's got bells on.
The e-mails were known about by Republican leadership for almost a year. It took a reporter less than a day to get from the e-mails to the instant messages (you know, the ones where Foley gets all happy about the length of a page's penis - and that's one of the milder exchanges). If the Republican leadership had cared at all about protecting teenagers from a predator they would have investigated when the e-mails first came to their attention.
The simple fact is that the Republican leadership did not want to know what was going on. Foley was a Republican vote in Congress from a safe district. So they kept quiet and looked the other way and hoped no one would notice.
Well, someone noticed. And now the Republican leadership's response is to go on the attack and yell a big, "Fuck you," to the American people. Who knows, it might just work. It worked for you, Hero.
I guess you missed the part about warning signals coming from as far back as 2001. Let's see, what happened since then? That would be the 2002 election where Foley ran and won and the 2004 election where Foley ran and won and the 2006 election where Foley would've won. Yup, responsibility in action.
I just have a couple of questions: Would you send your 16 year old to work as a Republican page? Would you have sent them if you had known about those e-mails and instant messages back in 2005? Or 2003? Or 2001? Would you send them if you found out the leadership knew about the e-mails and did everything in their power to not investigate further?
It's all about the power, who cares about the children. GOP before country. GOP before family. GOP before freedom.
* edited to add: Sometimes, you just need to get good and righteously pissed off. In my opinion, this is one of those situations. Hunter, over at dKos, summed up my feelings pretty well:
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excerpted from http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/2/163734/561
But in the end, at the end of it all, you don't FUCKING COVER UP FOR A CHILD SEX PREDATOR. No. Matter. What.
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Originally posted by Hero:
Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.
Interesting you should say this. So, given this reasoning, what do you think should happen to all the GOP leaders that have admitted to knowing about this crime for at least a year?
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Originally posted by Hero:
Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.
Many Democrats have committed crimes and/or been caught acting in an inappropriate fashion with their subordinates and, with one notable exception (from New Jersey of all places), don't, in recent years anyway...taken professional responsibitlity for these personal failures.
When there is an (R) next to a person's name, they tend to resign in disgrace for the good of the party and the country after which its a private matter and should be handled with discretion within the limits of the law and media notwithstanding.
If this Congressman had a (D) then there would be a parade of excuses, claims of entrapment, vast right wing conspiracies, claims that this is private, and a vicious attack on the Page's and the Speaker's office for sending this to the proper authorities for investigation. It'd be a nice press conference...with Dany Glover and maybe Al Sharpton.
Lets not forget a certain Congressman whose murdered intern was so convieniantly made back page news by 9/11. He was a Democrat...and did not resign.
H
You must be kidding around. Surely, you are not so misinformed to believe what you wrote. The only thing right was the first sentence.
To suggest that Republicans have some kind of moral superiority in regards to ethics is asinine. Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH) plead guilty to corruption charges and has yet to resign. Nor did Reps. Cunningham (R-CA) or Delay (R-TX) resign immediately upon indictment. Neither party has a sterling record with ethics.
Innuendo aside, Rep. Condit (D-CA) was neither convicted or charged in connection with the murder of Chandra Levy, an adult woman with whom he had a consensual affair. The Democrats of his district did in fact hold Rep. Condit responsible. They nominated his opponent in the subsequent primary.
Time will tell if the House leadership actively concealed Rep. Foley's behavior from the public or law enforcement, but it is worth noting that according to both CNN and MSNBC it was no secret on Capital Hill that Rep. Foley was a homosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) and he spent an unusually inordinate amount of time with these underage pages. It has also been widely reported that pages were aware of and discussed Rep. Foley's advancements for some time now.
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Does anyone even take Hero's retarded ranting seriously anymore?
I mean, as soon as the thread went up, it was only a matter of time before he spewed.
So, Hero, when are you gonna answer the question above?
What should happen to all of those GOP higher-up who knew about this, and covered it up?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
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