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Congressman quits after messages to teens found

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UPDATED: Thursday, October 5, 2006 05:35
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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm just waiting for "It was the kid's fault". I'm sure it won't be long in coming (so to speak).

And in the meantime, rumor is that someone tried to bribe ABC not to go public with this story. Waiting to see what happens to that.Bush even defended Hastert , today!!

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.



Its coming ..you know its coming!!!They already arev in sick little ways, its already starting, I have a feeling that more young boys are going to be coming foward..soon!!

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Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
PJ, a little math lesson real quick.

And this'll let you know why I am less than fond of NCMEC.

Count how many missing kids in the USA, count em, just the reported ones, even.

Think of the physical VOLUME that so many people would take up, even.

Then go count how many kids go into the social services system, via neglect, abandonment or in rare case outright lame excuses.

Then go count how many come OUT.

So, what happens ?
Where the hell are they ?
They're not in foster care, not placed, not adoped and not in custody... they just... no longer officially exist.

Not only that, but Boys Town is not the only feeder system, there's plenty more, many associated with Catholic Charities.

If I can spot these anomolies, so can NCMEC, and thus, they "know", and the lack of action in that direction, that silence, condemns them more than any words I could say.

-Frem




This is a mystery while I'm sure some of the children that are missing can be blamed on parent abuductions that doesn't account for half of children who go missing and are never heard from,..so this question begs to be asked, if 2,000-3,000 children go missing in the U.S everyday,what is happening to them?...whats going on.?

http://www.southernrescue.org/info/Missing.html
http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/Missing_Children_Data.htm


http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/fs100202.htm

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:00 AM

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The guy certainly seems like a louse and likes 'em real young, but calling him a child molester might be a little over the top...
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so you think calling him a pedophile is over the top..really..seriously..I'm so thourghly disgusted right now I don't know what to say..

but ummm thanks for the honesty I guess!!its disturbingly great to know how people really feel

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:16 AM

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I call bullshit.

They knew, they know.

The whole poisonous little atmosphere up on the hill is rife with this crap on both sides of the fence, even the most cursory investigation will leave any sensible person heaving into an airsick back in under an hour - I *guarantee* it.



What gets me is that none of this is a secret up on capitol hill, many of the people who are in government and positions of power know all about these pedophiles, They know who they are.., they know about the Bush's , Rove, Cheney the pedohile network, most of them know a little bit of whats happening, its one big boys club up there of sick and twisted nasty doings. and the people who aren't involved know a little something about the ones that are involved, but nobody is willing to talk openly about it out of fear.!!!

can someone tell me which news outlet broke this story 1rst , because I find it starnge that a main-stream newpaper or media outlet would do it.!! so I would like to see whats behind that!!

unless it was purposely put out there for a reason, one that we've yet to calculate!!!..I just find it extremely odd.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
can someone tell me which news outlet broke this story 1rst , because I find it starnge that a main-stream newpaper or media outlet would do.!! so I would like to see whats behind that!!


I think it was Brian Ross, an investigative reporter at ABC, who broke the story last week. However, Fox, the St. Petersberg Times, and the Miami Herald were all sent the e-mail last year and ignored it.

* edited to add: Here's the original post: http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/sixteenyearold_.html

IIRC, Ross said that he was contacted by a different former page the next day who forwarded some instant messages. That's when the shit hit the fan.

Based on ABCs dismal performance during the Path to 9/11 fiasco I'd say it's a safe bet that this wouldn't have been broadcast on air or in print. Although once it got out, then they had to cover it because everyone else was. Seems like they forgot to censor their on-line content.

* edited on more time to add: The first reporting was done by Rhonda Schwartz and Maddy Sauer, not Ross (although it looks like everyone is a part of the Ross team).

* edited one last time to add: I found reading through the comments of the original post to be very, very interesting. I wonder if any of those people have changed their mind with the release of new information.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by piratejenny:

Quote:

Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

PJ, a little math lesson real quick.

And this'll let you know why I am less than fond of NCMEC.

Count how many missing kids in the USA, count em, just the reported ones, even.

Think of the physical VOLUME that so many people would take up, even.

Then go count how many kids go into the social services system, via neglect, abandonment or in rare case outright lame excuses.

Then go count how many come OUT.

So, what happens ?
Where the hell are they ?
They're not in foster care, not placed, not adoped and not in custody... they just... no longer officially exist.

Not only that, but Boys Town is not the only feeder system, there's plenty more, many associated with Catholic Charities.

If I can spot these anomolies, so can NCMEC, and thus, they "know", and the lack of action in that direction, that silence, condemns them more than any words I could say.

-Frem




This is a mystery while I'm sure some of the children that are missing can be blamed on parent abuductions that doesn't account for half of children who go missing and are never heard from,..so this question begs to be asked, if 2,000-3,000 children go missing in the U.S everyday,what is happening to them?...whats going on.?

http://www.southernrescue.org/info/Missing.html
http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/Missing_Children_Data.htm

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/fs100202.htm




White House correspondent Johnny Gosch Gannon, the homohooker who slept over with Junior Bush 200 times...
www.johnnygosch.com

Here's part of the problem - a confessed "pedophile" ran the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children...

Quote:


"If I were one of these sickos I would be nervous with America's Most Wanted on my back."
-Congressman Mark Foley, co-chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children, America's Most Wanted, VIDEO:



"It's vile. It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."
-Congressman Mark Foley, homosexual pedophile cybersex serviced during Congressional votes, regarding Monica Lowenski servicing Bill Clinton Blythe in the White House

"Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man. Mark voluntarily entered a substance abuse and mental health facility, and he will be there at least 30 days. This decision was Mark's, as was his decision to resign from the United States House of Representatives. Between the ages of 13 and 15, he was molested by a clergyman."
-David Roth, attorney for Mark Foley
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/03/foley.scandal/index.html

"Do I make you a little horny?"
-Congressman Mark Foley, cybersex email to Congressional page


www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=
364x2303322

Propaganda Brainwash Formula 101


Our local TV news perps the same brainwashing, when discussing our Republican Skull & Bones mayor raising taxes 100%, then identifying him as a "Democrat" on the TV title. The TV "newscaster" was the "deputy mayor" for our gay mayor, ambassador Victor "Victoria" Ashe, who is also the longtime S&M gay lover of Georgie Bush Jr, according to eyewitness dominatrix Leona McConnell, candidate for governor of Nevada.
www.mcconnellforgovernor.com
www.bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com

Quote:


"You'll pay any tax increase I tell you to pay! You can afford it!"
-Victor Ashe, mayor, Knoxville city council meeting



Question for Hero:

Foley has confessed to cybersex orgasm with a minor. Is that classified as the mental illness of pedophilia? Is that prosecutable as a sex crime? Is "contact" an essential element?

Has any law enforcement employee taken affidavits from the 5 pages, to determine if any were physically molested by

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 11:08 AM

Trust me folks, this one ain't even *begun* to get wacky yet - nice followup there Soupcatcher, pretty bizarre, isn't it ?

There's a whole heullva lot more to this that'll be coming out soon, whether they like it or not, even if the media tries to sit on it.

PN isn't too far off, on this one, it's way weirder than you know, and the strangeness has only just begun.

Certain devious and ruthless folk are busy setting these pricks up against each other, so there's also likely to be some pretty nasty mudslinging in short order, as well.

Stay tuned, make popcorn, and don't believe anything you haven't gotten valid confirmation of yourself.

"Going for a ride..." -River Tam

-Frem

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
PN isn't too far off, on this one, it's way weirder than you know, and the strangeness has only just begun.


For the record, those pictures PN is posting showing kids in various SM poses are possibly illegal. I have considered contacting the FBI about them...

Even if they are legal, they certainly are objectionable and I think they ought to be removed. I'm surprised more folk have not mentioned this.

With regards to Mr. Foley, turns out he's gay and was abused by priests. All he has to do now is change parties and this will all go away. I note for the record that if he were a hot blonde female teacher he would not be facing jail time for what he's done. Matter of fact if he were a hot blonde female teacher in Florida, he could have had actual, much less virtual, sex with these 16 year-olds and not faced jail. And if he'd just been a (D), he'd not even have had to resign. I'm just sayin...


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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:20 PM

Speaking of over the top...

Quote:

Originally posted by piratejenny:
Quote:

The guy certainly seems like a louse and likes 'em real young, but calling him a child molester might be a little over the top...
.



so you think calling him a pedophile is over the top..really..seriously..I'm so thourghly disgusted right now I don't know what to say..

but ummm thanks for the honesty I guess!!its disturbingly great to know how people really feel



Take it down a notch, Tiger. Believe it or not, I have very little power in setting age of consent laws in the US or abroad. If you are so disgusted, why don't you write the state legislatures and knock off the hyperbole. Start with Iowa, Missouri, and South Carolina, where it's 14 for girls... eeewww...

http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

If you have something to cite from a reliable or reputable source that indicates Foley molested pre-pubescent children, I will gladly retract my statement. Otherwise, I stand by the post.

Because as of now the only error I see is ending a sentence with a preposition.

As to your bizarre claims that the Stonecutters are abducting, molesting, and murdering children all over the country, I am a tad skeptical, to say the least. I am, however, unwilling to do the research to either confirm or refute your charges, as I will not google "secret child sex ring".

Edited to add:

"FBI's Foley case eyes legal 'gray area'"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061004/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/foley_investigat
ion_2


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"There are going to be some issues here in the gray area," Lanning said. "You may find this behavior repulsive, offensive or immoral. Whether it's a violation of law will be based on a precise reading of the law."

Investigators could consider federal obscenity laws, experts said, but the law prohibiting disseminating obscene material to children applies only to those under 16.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 4:52 AM


I'm sure you would love for me to shut up, NOT Gonna Happen!!!just keep on posting, like I said let us know how you really feel.

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