Guess the October Surprise -
POSTED BY: Righteous9
UPDATED: Sunday, November 12, 2006 15:16
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Bin Laden dead reports confirmed HERO? This administration does not want him to die of natural causes. That would be a colosal failure. Better an at-large boogie man than that.
You know I meant terrorist attack on U.S. soil. like the anthrax attack that was conveniently forgotten every time Bush and his people say we haven't been attacked since 9/11. Of course other attacks happen everyday but they aren't real to the American public sadly, or we would have applied preasure on bush to get our soldiers out of harms way long ago.
As Casey said to Santorum, him believing that weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq represents to 2 percent of the time he disagrees with the president. If it were true it would be all day news. Why would they classify it? it was the reason for going to war and it would vindicate the whole operation. It would be a moral blow to terrorists as well. They don't say they found weapons because they didn't and because they know that minor case is not what we predicated our invasion on, and they would look foolish for invoking it.
You apparently don't care how foolish or insincere you look.
Quit acting like the democrats have proposed nothing. They've gotten no bills to the floor except for like 1 minimum wage hike bill that only got there on the grounds that they had to make it a guaranteed failure by agreeing to a 2/3's vote - sadly that's the way senate majority works.
they've made plenty of proposals, they have a stance on terror, they have a stance on all of these things, but they have no way of bringing anything up for a vote - it's hard enough just to try to stop Bush and his cronies from passing poison pills that slowly kill America - and for fucks-sake, that's platform enough for me.
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Yeah, the polls are being downplayed. You can find them though. They were looking great for dems, but the closer we get to the election the closer the numbers get within the margin of error -- go figure. Harder to steal an election that is nowhere close in the polls I guess.
The assasination thing is also scary. It would be a horrible thing for this county if he were assasinated or shot at. The whole grenade thing didn't seem to help him much though - but as a martyr? I thought of this before I heard about the movie. The powers that be have basically gotten all the use out of him they could. He's damaged goods now. He'd be much more useful to them dead, you'd think. Good thing for him for his dad I guess.
Yeah it's the Los Angeles times, New York post, ABC, CNN poll conspiracy. What we need is to get all the neocons to stop running these polls
And as far as the polls getting closer to the margin of error as we approach election, the undecided voters actually picking sides. How weird is that...who woulda thunk it!
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Canker sore,
I would like to see ANY analysis that took a long view of Bush's policies and evaluated them one by one.
Bush can't stand on his record. That's why there's a media flurry of non-news, all pointing anywhere else but at Bush's many failures. It's easy to propagandize the public when the media does your dirty work for you.
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You know, I work with people who've maintained all along there will be some huge event - something large enough to declare martial law and to claim authority to cancel elections. They've speculated dirty bombs, anthrax, assassination -
I personally don't hold with this, but it's interesting that highly educated people (people with science PhDs and political connections) do give this credit.
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My guess is that we have already seen the surprise: drastically falling gas prices. That is not to say this drop is organized or controlled by the Bush Administration or the Republicans, but I hypothesize it is instead being done by private interests because they know, quite frankly, who butters their bread (see Energy Bill).
Regarding the discepancies between the polls and actual votes, there might be a much less sinister explanation. Most polls I see are conducted nationwide, which means they are worthless. What a majority of voters think across the country means very little in your home state. It means even less in your Congressional district, which has been gerrymandered to such a degree that public opinion is inconsequential.
Oh, and The Post is owned by Murdoch. It's The Times Republicans are supposed to hate...
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Ruse,
He's a two term prez. I'd call that standing on ones record. Or should I just pretend he wasn't voted in twice, and forget that America voted him in over Gore or Mari-ah?
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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
My guess is that we have already seen the surprise: drastically falling gas prices. That is not to say this drop is organized or controlled by the Bush Administration or the Republicans, but I hypothesize it is instead being done by private interests because they know, quite frankly, who butters their bread (see Energy Bill).
Regarding the discepancies between the polls and actual votes, there might be a much less sinister explanation. Most polls I see are conducted nationwide, which means they are worthless. What a majority of voters think across the country means very little in your home state. It means even less in your Congressional district, which has been gerrymandered to such a degree that public opinion is inconsequential.
Oh, and The Post is owned by Murdoch. It's The Times Republicans are supposed to hate...
Another conspiracy? Nothing as unusual as gas prices falling after labor day. I smell a fix!
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Canker sore
Bush was not voted into office either time. The republican machine put him there by stripping away the votes of 3 MILLION Americans.
Let's break that down into how massive that kind of election fraud is. In Florida 2000 alone 90,000 registered voters - mostly democrats - were stripped from the rolls They have not YET been restored. Did you know that? Even given that, if a full recount had been allowed Gore would have won. As it was, the US Supreme Court made the highly illegal decision to appoint Bush. In Ohio 2004 alone a quarter of a million voters - again mostly democrats - were either removed from the rolls, sent to the wrong polling place, given the wrong ballots, had their provisional ballots thrown out, or otherwise had their vote 'disappeared' in Diebold machines. It was the same story as in 2000 - pre-election polls and exit polls all pointed to a democratic win - and a win for honest elections and for democracy. But the Bush administration and republican congress decided there would be no investigation of election fraud. Geeze, I wonder why that is, Canker sore? Maybe you can come up with an answer.
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Originally posted by rue:
Canker sore,
I would like to see ANY analysis that took a long view of Bush's policies and evaluated them one by one.
Bush can't stand on his record. That's why there's a media flurry of non-news, all pointing anywhere else but at Bush's many failures. It's easy to propagandize the public when the media does your dirty work for you.
Ruse,
You should spell it...Kaneker sore
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Another conspiracy? Nothing as unusual as gas prices falling after labor day. I smell a fix!
Yes, gas prices do normally drop in the fall, but not by 20%.
And a far out conspiracy theory? Perhaps, but:
http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=42313
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Back in July, both crude oil and gasoline hit their highest recorded prices. Gas was averaging about three dollars a gallon. By mid-September, oil had dropped about fifteen bucks a barrel. So gas should have dropped about forty five cents a gallon. But actually dropped fifty cents a gallon, and more since then. We asked professor Ashkay Rao, who studies pricing strategies, if President Bush could have had a hand in plummeting gas prices.
Rao says, "surely if he picked up the phone and made five or ten strategic phone calls he might be able to influence prices to some degree. But I think that's a fairly far-fetched theory.
While he doubts the conspiracy theory, Rao says it's conceivable the price cuts might have come from the energy industry, without any prompting from Washington, out of fear that if the Democrats win, they'll make good on threats to tax the energy industry more heavily.
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