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Bush's Rhetoric Redux

POSTED BY: misbehaven
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 6, 2006 13:25
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Tuesday, September 5, 2006 9:21 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
BDN- Rue told me that Candian PM elections are by paper ballot, that they're counted by hand overnight, and that it's based on the popular vote.



Well kinda. Each party selects a leader at their conventions. These leaders campaign for the post of Prime Minister and must win their seat in their own district. Whichever party wins the most seats becomes either a majority or minority government (based on number of seats).
So most Canadians do not vote for a Prime Minister per se, we vote for candidates and the guy with the most seats wins.


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That would be too simple and straighforward for us. We prefer insecure machines, biased election officials, machine-counting, and the electoral college. Why make something simple and workable when you can let politicians muck about, eh?



I thought the complexity was built into the electoral process to prevent fraud from happening in the first place. How ironic.



Posting to stir stuff up.

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RUE
Tuesday, September 5, 2006 9:55 PM

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The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.



Originally, the state legislators appointed the presidential electors. There was no popular vote. Even today, the electors are not necessarily required to vote according to the popular vote in the states. So the popular vote for president is, to all intents and purposes, a toothless poll.

The reason for this was b/c the framers of the Constitution really DIDN'T trust the common man to pick the government. So popular participation and power were intentionally curtailed.

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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:16 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
"...Probable massive voter fraud, as in the last two elections, has never been investigated by the government..."



Probable? Bwa-haa-haa-haa. Interestingly, things went rather smoothly in Florida without Katherine Harris running the election.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060906/ap_on_el_se/florida_election_26

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Harris wins Fla. GOP Senate nomination

"...Despite a handful of late openings at polling places, the primary appeared to be debacle-free, with no problems reported to rival the troubled elections in 2000 and 2002..."

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Wednesday, September 6, 2006 1:25 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by Causal:
Oh, my goodness! Could it be that another of River/Shadowfly/Kane's alter ego's has surfaced?









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