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There's a joke I'm not getting (Maidenhead)

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:46 AM

That means something doesn't it?
Something dirty.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:55 AM

Not too dirty. But strictly speaking, yeah. Maidenhead was the common name for "hymen" in times past.


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:56 AM

But I don't think that's why Joss used it.
"Maidenhead" is a big town in England, close to where Joss was when he lived here. He also refers to "Burnham" in the film (sorry, can't remember exactly when), and that is a small town/big village about 6 miles down the road from Maidenhead.

I only noticed because I lived in Burnham for many years.



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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:00 AM

Gross.

And the 'Burnham' in Serenity is the Burnham quadrant, close to the location of Miranda.


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:39 AM

It's kind of ye olde English... isn't it?

I have heard a quote along the lines of a powerful man telling a young woman that 'I'll take your maidenhead'

I suppose that harks back to the days when a woman's virginity was a treasured posession.

Also Birnam wood is mentioned in MacBeth... er I mean... That Scotish play. Joss is a bit of a Shakespearean fan I think!

Hope it helps - Magdalena x x


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:07 PM

Maidenhead.

It's an old mariner/shipbuilder term for the maiden that was oft carved into the bow of the ship, which is the lead part of the hull, which the rest of the ship follows into its heading. The maiden at the head of the ship.

Hence where the town derives its name from, and where the bar in the movie does to. Since Firefly makes many parallels to sailing (re: boat, keelhaul, etc.) it makes sense Joss wanted to have something that invoked that sense when the ship was "in port" on Beaumonde.

Hope that helps with the perspective of the 'Verse.


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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magdalena:
...that harks back to the days when a woman's virginity was a treasured posession.



It makes me vaguely sad that we are casual about this no longer being the case.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:45 PM

TenthCrewMember, thank you for posting that bit of wisdom! And here everyone thought it was just about sex.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:19 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
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Another Iowan! Where in Iowa, Causal? Doesn't that make three of us - you, me and Penguin?

I'm in Allamakee County.... waaaay up in the corner.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:25 PM

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Originally posted by Grizwald:
Another Iowan! Where in Iowa, Causal? Doesn't that make three of us - you, me and Penguin?



I'm from Ames. BTW, you should look Penguin up. He's been declared "King of the Mythical Land of Iowa". He's the guy that granted me the title "Grand High Poobah"--you should probably go find him and see if you can get yourself installed in some office!

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