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There's a joke I'm not getting (Maidenhead)

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:25 PM

i don't know, i would think there's a possibility that it was also a referance to the archaic use of the word 'maidenhead'. after all, it's in the maidenhead we first see river's potential, several illusions about her are laid bare. this could, in terms of the story, be considered an awakening of sorts, a loss of innocence, which fits the idea of the loss of virginity rather nicely.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:28 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:


I'm from Ames. BTW, you should look Penguin up. He's been declared "King of the Mythical Land of Iowa". He's the guy that granted me the title "Grand High Poobah"--you should probably go find him and see if you can get yourself installed in some office!



Good. I want to be High Corn Priestess and Princess of Pork. Or something.

(Our local ag board actually crowns a Dairy Princess every year. Can you imagine putting that on your college resume?)

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by Grizwald:
Good. I want to be High Corn Priestess and Pork Princess. Or something.

(Our local ag board actually crowns a Dairy Princess every year. Can you imagine putting that on your college resume?)



*ahem*

By the power vested in me by Penguin, King of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA, I, Causal, Grand High Poobah of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA and Keeper of State Secrets do hereby solemnly declare* Grizwald to be:

High Priestess of Pork and Ag-Related Activities of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA

With all the duties and responsibilities thereof.

*Pending Penguin's approval

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:42 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
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Originally posted by magdalena:
...that harks back to the days when a woman's virginity was a treasured posession.



It makes me vaguely sad that we are casual about this no longer being the case.


If it makes you feel better, I treasured mine greatly. And even if my maidenhead is gone, I still treasure that whole... area. I think everyone should be very aware of who they are with, and not allow just anyone have that kind of intimacy.

Oddsbodkins has a great theory, there. All kinds of layers of meaning in such a name.

I remember reading 'Romeo and Juliet' and at the very beginning there is a comment about taking the heads of all the women, and one of the men says "The heads of the maidens?" and the other replies "Or their maidenheads." And I was so appalled by that, thinking (correctly) that it was referring to raping all the women of the rival household and I thought that was terrible!


Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. - Gautama Siddharta

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:04 PM

If it makes you feel any better, one of the Montagues refers to his friend's (as in "with friends like these,") manhood as a "bit of a poor-john."

A poor-john was a sort of a fishy snack (like a cross between fish'n'chips and popcorn shrimp) sold in markets. It was primarily known for being "small, shrivelled, and cheap."

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:53 PM

Well, I am glad I added the NON-sexual reference to the "education" here. :P

However, I will concede, that given the perspective of River's "coming out", that the term holds some meaning for the loss of innocence too. But I'll still maintain that it is a term from the days of ol' that referred to a part of the ship, which later came to reference a woman's...sensitive area...which makes sense, given all the terminology sailers have about the sea and ships and how they're like women...

Which I leave for you to later explore!

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:02 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
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Originally posted by Grizwald:
Good. I want to be High Corn Priestess and Pork Princess. Or something.

(Our local ag board actually crowns a Dairy Princess every year. Can you imagine putting that on your college resume?)



*ahem*

By the power vested in me by Penguin, King of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA, I, Causal, Grand High Poobah of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA and Keeper of State Secrets do hereby solemnly declare* Grizwald to be:

High Priestess of Pork and Ag-Related Activities of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA

With all the duties and responsibilities thereof.

*Pending Penguin's approval

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Grand High Poobah of the Mythical Land of Iowa, and Keeper of State Secrets



Approval given!



King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:19 PM

Hooray! All hail Grizwald, High Priestess of Pork and Ag-Related Activities of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA!

Long may her larder overflow!

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
Hooray! All hail Grizwald, High Priestess of Pork and Ag-Related Activities of the MYTHICAL LAND OF IOWA!

Long may her larder overflow!



Yeah! Hurray for me.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:37 PM

I'm pretty sure Embers is an Iowan (least I think so). In any case, there's more than just us three, so maybe you'll get to create a new state official and our little group will grow larger.

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