There is no God.
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Mal4Prez
Quote:I happen to know that god is old, white male, with long white hair and a big long white beard, who lives away up here, who's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice ....
Angry God? Jealous God? Male God? Older and white skinned? hmmmm.
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Originally posted by rue:
Mal4PrezQuote:I happen to know that god is old, white male, with long white hair and a big bushy beard, who lives away up here, who's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice ....
Angry God? Jealous God? Male God? Older and white skinned? hmmmm.
Damn, I guess that means I'm getting a lump of coal again!
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"Damn, I guess that means I'm getting a lump of coal again! " Lump of coal, burn in hell - there's an weird symmetry about that. 
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I happen to know that god is old, white male, with long white hair and a big long white beard, who lives away up here, who's making a list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who's naughty or nice ...
Oh, come on RUE. There's no God, there's just aliens. And we simple-minded humans were genetically engineered by this vastly superior extraterrestrial intelligence.
Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.
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Quote:I think Xtians tend to fall prey to the persecution complex. That's why they feel so alone and vulnerable as part of a militant majority. Martyrdom is a big part of their religion and besides, it goes well with the whole idea of looking at the universe through a veil of fear and into the abyss of hell.
I do think it is interesting that I, as a Christian, feel I am in the minority and you, as an Atheist, feel that the Christian mindset is more prevalent.
There's nothing like a twitchy paranoid to ruin your day. Especially if he lives in the WH.
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:I think Xtians tend to fall prey to the persecution complex. That's why they feel so alone and vulnerable as part of a militant majority. Martyrdom is a big part of their religion and besides, it goes well with the whole idea of looking at the universe through a veil of fear and into the abyss of hell.
I do think it is interesting that I, as a Christian, feel I am in the minority and you, as an Atheist, feel that the Christian mindset is more prevalent.
There's nothing like a twitchy paranoid to ruin your day. Especially if he lives in the WH.
That's a load of crap. I am neither twitchy nor paranoid and have no persecution complex. Nor am I Catholic, so I don't believe in the saints or that martyrdom, literal or figurative, is especially honored, don't think Mary was holy or that she remained a virgin, don't need a priest to confess my sins to or tell me what the bible says. Nor do I support any organization that covers up heinous crimes such as molestation.
For a real world example, I work in an office of 87 people. There are 4 Christians that I know of (I've been here 7 years, so I've had time to get to know people. Could there be more? Certainly). There are 15 Catholics. That's what I call a minority. College was similar.
To note, there is a distinction between people who identify themselves as "christian" and those who live their life as a Christian. There are large numbers of people that were simply raised with a faith, no longer practice it, but when asked what their religion is, they fall back on what they were raised with.
Mal4Prez: I don't believe God is either white or entirely male. I think he embodies all aspects of male and female. I use the term 'he' for God because of a patriarchal interpretation of the bible. I do believe he can be angry and jealous, but only in the most positive aspects of those words: righteous anger, etc. But again, those characteristics are not the full embodiment of God. He is also loving, caring, kind, selfless, etc. Basically, anything good you see in humans is a reflection of the goodness of God.
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Originally posted by rue:
"Damn, I guess that means I'm getting a lump of coal again!
OMG! You've discovered the buried clue!!
Or maybe not. Let's go with Misbehaven's alien theory... oh wait, the scientologists beat us to it.
SIGNYM - what's the WH?
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Let's go with Misbehaven's alien theory... oh wait, the scientologists beat us to it.
Damn that Tom Cruise!
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what's the WH?
White House
Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.
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RugBug
I think it all depends on where you live. I live in the bible belt where christians are a dime a dozen it seems. And we have all kinds, rational christians and the irrational fundametalists. Some catholics, that number grows with immigration, but protestant christians are the majority here and everyone else the minority.
It may be that you are in CA and that is why there seems to be more catholics.
Were one in NY or some other large urban area the mix might be very different.
PS - I am a converted catholic that was raised first baptist by a presbyterian raised agnostic - WHEW say that five times fast!
We are The Forsaken - We aim to burn! and we don't need no stinkin levels!
one of the Forsaken TM
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Originally posted by RugBug:
Mal4Prez: I don't believe God is either white or entirely male. I think he embodies all aspects of male and female. I use the term 'he' for God because of a patriarchal interpretation of the bible. I do believe he can be angry and jealous, but only in the most positive aspects of those words: righteous anger, etc. But again, those characteristics are not the full embodiment of God. He is also loving, caring, kind, selfless, etc. Basically, anything good you see in humans is a reflection of the goodness of God.
I think your beliefs are healthy and good, and I got no argument with anything except this: How is righteous anger ever positive? Being angry and absolutely sure you're right? Yikes! I can't believe anyone encourages this and calls it moral! This is why our country (the US) is killing thousands of innocents right now!!
For me, I don't like breaking up my own behavior into the "good" emotions that a sentient being gave me, and then lots of other "bad" things (which came from where?) and then saying that this being may come down on me with "righteous anger" because I make the wrong choices. Wrong as the superior but oh so distant being defines it. That's so limited, and leaves room for people to mess with it in very damaging ways. (Hello pedophiles!)
The "dark" feelings are there for a reason, and they help me survive - not just in the Darwinian sense (I'm more than a little over Darwin, but I'll avoid that tangent) - but my fear and anger and insecurity and even hate actually help me understand and appreciate myself and the world I live in. As long as I keep all these sides of me in balance.
Overall, I think "God" having human emotions makes him/her/it look so petty and small. This being (as I understand it, and don't we all understand it differently and isn't that a good thing!) is on a whole different plane than us. There's a big universe out there, and the little emotion soup we got going here is tiny. Why would God be limited to being like us?
Misbehaven - Oooooh. White House. I see your point and share your fear!!
FMF - I have Catholics, Mormons and a whole lot of Jehovah's witnesses in my extended family. Gah!
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