When people hate a series because of an actor.
POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Monday, August 7, 2006 04:12
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Well, theres two ideas in this thread - hate the actor, hate the character. For instance, Wesley "Die.Die.Die." Crusher is a fine example of a character that rightfully should have been blown out the nearest airlock without a vacsuit. The guy that played 'im? Dont care one way or the other.
Pauly Shore. Fran Dresher. Roseann Barr. Explosive decompresion would be too kind.
They're just obnoxious, though. Sigourney Weaver is truely evil - because it was her screwing around and acting all like she's important that led to Hicks and Newt dying in the opening credits of Aliens III. There can be only two.
Buffy's a character I just didnt like on the small screen. The first couple of seasons she's always "Waaaaa. I dowanna be the Slayer! I wanna be a cheerleader again! I was happy as a cheerleader." then things got really awful; "Waaaaa. I dowanna be the Slayer! I wanna be dead again! I was happy dead!"
What an awful character. Faith - ok, first, she's way hotter than Geller - but the attitude was more along the lines of "Awsome. I got superpowers and a clear seperation between good and evil! Lets go Slay some Bads!"
And you've notice, as I have, theres no Wesley on Firefly. No character you're just saying 'Just shut the hell up and go off camera.'
They've all got their great moments, they've all got in-depth, well-defined personalities and they arent squeaky clean Federation know-alls.
"Theres a rift in the space-time continuum produced by this funny-foreheaded space alien (who, dispite being from the other side of the universe, still understands pressing lips together to be a sign of affection), what ever shall we do? Oh, I know, a cascading inverse tachyon quantum pulse should destablized the rift and save the universe as we know it. Again."
Right. You know, I was recently asked if I'd run a p-score for my risk analysis of wildfire in San Diego County. I had to google to remind myself what the hell a p-score was (it expresses risk in terms of standard deviation).
Joss's 'verse really is cooler than the other leading brands.
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I'm one of those people that has never watched Buffy due to SMG...she is my number one most disliked actor/actress (with jennifer love hewitt coming in a close second). Aside from those two, there reallya aren't any actors I can think of that bother me. Now, in all fairness I have seen a work from each of them that didn't have me wanting to gouge my eyeballs out.
I'll give Buffy a try sometime...I just really dread having to see SMG.
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My wife and I watched Buffy from day one, and we adored SMG at first. The character was cute, and SMG was cute as well. However, after Angel left the character of Buffy got to be more and more winey. I would say she became the B word, but I don't know if that would pass screening 
At that same time SMG herself kept getting skinnier and hard looking. It made her seem like a Bitca as well. Add to that the fact that SMG seemed to never join in with cast affairs offset (i.e. Posting Board Parties, Video Game voice overs, etc.), and it just cemented the image.
I still think SMG is hard looking, not soft and cute like she was in the early seasons. Also, I thought she was a great actress in seasons 2 and 3. There were a lot of emotional scenes. I didn't see much of that in later seasons. I just think people test the waters with the wrong episodes.
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Personally, I have no qualms with Sarah Michelle Geller. Granted, she's not the best actress, but whatever. And, I think some episodes of Buffy can be okay, but to watch all those seasons?
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There are a few actors I would rather not see onscreen, but usually the story or the other actors make up for it.
As to the SMG issue, I am also one of those individuals that do not like her at all. I honestly do not think highly of her as an actress, and yes, I have seen Buffy and a movie or two in which she acted. I will watch Buffy, but prefer the episodes where she is not the focus. I am not in any way a fan of Buffy, but most of the characters are quite entertaining.
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Quote:Well, Dark Angel IS good, as good as Buffy IMHO, but Buffy had a longer time to tell it's tale. Jessica Alba is about equal to SMG in the acting corner (both started out questionable, then more than proved themselves, again, IMHO).
Originally posted by OPPYH:
Now I don't really think Jessica Alba is anything special, but I thought Dark Angel was pretty cool. I personally feel SMG could act circles around Jessica Alba, but my friends insist Dark Angel is better, even though they never watched Buffy.
Dark Angel came easy for me, I instantly fell into the groove, and clicked with actors and characters. Buffy had to grow on me, and it wasn't until season 7 that I finally broke down and stopped saying Dark Angel was better!
It's all chemistry, what peeps like. Sometimes the chemistry can be a little altered with time and exposure...
Max+Buffy+Mal=happyChrisisall
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I honestly used to say this about Buffy. I flat out refused to watch the show when it came on, and kept refusing for years after. While I admit I have started to like SMG more, my favorite characters are the supporting ones, people who I feel make the show worthwhile. So even if you really dislike an actor, don't forsake everyone on that show just because of one person.
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Quote:
Originally posted by OPPYH:
I ask them what's wrong with SMG, and they tell me they don't, they just can't stand her.
If anyone can explain the strangeness of why people hate actors for no reason please let me know what causes it, and I will look for a cure.
Many people (myself included) think that SMG couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag. Plus Jessica Alba is far better looking, far better body, etc. IMO of course.
I also wouldn't say that they don't like her for no reason. I would say that they have a reason, but can't articulate it. I mean, I know that I've hated things before and my only answer was, "I just can't put my finger on it." It's as valide as anything else.
Being Buffy specific, I found that I was able to ignore the irritating Buffy character while watching the series on tv. But, the second time through (1st DVD run) I found her annoying, but the third time I watched the series, I couldn't stand her. The sheer lack of character develepment (still acting like the 16 year old from season 1 in season 7 was pathetic) really got to me.
Furthermore, I'm finding her cameo's on Angel (going through season 1 right now) like nails down a chalk board.
I know that the above is going to be sacrilegious to many people. But, one must understand that others hold differing opinions, and this is one of them. There isn't a cure, it's just about who likes what (there are no real hard facts that can be only interpreted one way involved).
ie:
"I like rap because it has a lot of base."
"I hate rap because it has a lot of base."
That being said, not watching something because there is an actor in it that one doesn't like isn't exactly the more wise, nor the most mature thing that one can do. But, what are ya gonna do?
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Yeah, I have a friend who refused to watch Buffy because of SMG. But I was like, okay, if you don't watch this then I can't call you one of my friends. lol. But I eventually convinced her to watch it, and now she loves it. (Although she still hates SMG). The same friend refuses to watch Dark Angel because of Jessica Alba. Personally, I admire Jessica Alba. She has somehow managed to become a houseold name and a really famous actress, without having any roles that were very good. (Dark Angel asid in my opinion). I don't know how she did it, but she did. And from what I've read about her she seems like someone that I could actually get along with in real life.
It's like that saying, don't hate the player, hate the game. The movie (And television) business is risky. Sometimes people do what they have to do get a job, and taboids twist so much anyway, that there is no way to know what they are really like.
Personally, I don't really like SMG but there are so many actresses and actors that I love in Buffy that I can overlook her performance. But I think it also depends on how easily you can suspend your disbelief.
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Alba's a fine looking woman, but Dark Angel just never clicked with me. If you're gonna do cyberpunk, do cyberpunk, chrome and attitude and big explosions, or flying cars and gloom, like Bladerunner. I think one of the reasons I like Firefly so much is that the crew reminds me of Shadowrunners - not the way the game Shadowrun (RPG cyberpunk with elves and dragons set in Seattle) portrays them, but the way they end up getting played.
"Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes." -Terry Pratchett "Night Watch"
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