When people hate a series because of an actor.

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SIGMANUNKI

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:57 AM

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Originally posted by purplepenguin91:

And from what I've read about her she seems like someone that I could actually get along with in real life.

Sometimes people do what they have to do get a job, and taboids twist so much anyway, that there is no way to know what they are really like.

Personally, I don't really like SMG but there are so many actresses and actors that I love in Buffy that I can overlook her performance.

Personally, I was only talking about SMG's abilities as an actor. But, as long as it's brought up, I have seen SMG in interviews, etc and quite frankly, I find her an idiot. Almost no redeming qualities.

I do agree though that people sometimes do have to compromise and do things they'd rather not to survive. But, that's no excuse for calling someone down in an interview for no reason which SMG did to Joss.

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Originally posted by purplepenguin91:

But I think it also depends on how easily you can suspend your disbelief.

I think it speaks volumns when I can watch eps of Buffy and get emersed in it all (including vampires, daemons, etc), but SMG's "acting" brings me almost or fully out of the fantasy a lot of the time. I don't think I'm alone either.

Anyway, back to work.

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"We don't fear the reaper"

WHITEFALL

Friday, August 4, 2006 3:11 AM

Well, I first didnt watch buffy cause it just plain sounded weird, and all the ads for it were over the top and annoying (think fox and firefly) so I never tried. Then a few months back i netflixed the series at the recomendation of a buffy and firefly fan i know, and i cant say i regret it.

For all that i claim to be an amateur at least on the subject of acting, i usually cant pick out bad actors (or, if it is all subjective, i cant form opinions about em) so i just dont try. SMG, i've only ever seen her on buffy... wasnt impressed that she never showed her face on the extras. But buffy the character? Well, i found that she got less annoying and gained more depth as the series progressed (in season 1, joss was ultimately trying to write buffy as a stereotype... you know, plus the slayer thing) and the ensemble in buffy did an excellent job. SMG could not have carried the show by herself, but with the interesting other folk, it rounded itself out. And I cant fault SMG for eps like 'the body', of course.

as for the whiney thing... well, buffy the character was supposed to be as realistic as possible while maintaining the fiction, so the fact that years after the start of the series she cant come to terms with being different and in a lot of ways, alone... not a problem for me. As for SMG's acting job on that, well, i cant say, as mentioned above.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SAHARA

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:29 PM

I had my cousin watch Serenity, she couldn't get past the fact she didn't like Mal's hair ("outdated feathered hair" she said) and that she thought he had a Michael J. Fox vibe.
To that I said, "WTF???"

But I have to love her, she's family!!!

Who knows where people come up with the stuff they have a bad reaction to.

Sahara
Blackbird fly into the light of the dark, black night.

CHRISISALL

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:38 PM

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Originally posted by sahara:
I had my cousin watch Serenity, she couldn't get past the fact she didn't like Mal's hair ("outdated feathered hair" she said)

I agree. Old look. Like right out of the old west

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Feathered Chrisisall

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:41 PM

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Originally posted by purplepenguin91:
I admire Jessica Alba. She has somehow managed to become a houseold name and a really famous actress, without having any roles that were very good.

I know this is going a bit off topic, but did you not see "Sin City"? Awesome movie. And that's where Jessica Alba really took off, I'm pretty sure. I thought she was pretty good. She could pull off doing a scene with Bruce Willis without looking like a complete amataur, and that's rather impressive. Hasn't done much that was that great since then, though...

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ISAACSHEPHERD

Friday, August 4, 2006 2:30 PM

First of all I have to chime in with a few comments. The first thing I saw SMG in was Cruel Intentions and I hated her character. Sometimes seeing an antagonist in movies can cause you to really hate them. Look at Billy Zane from Titanic. Who likes him? I think being an antagonist in that really shot his career down, but I've seen some of the movies he's been in and he's a pretty good actor I think.

One of my friends who is a big Buffy fan kind of talked me into watching it cause Joss wrote Firefly as well. Since I love Firefly I thought I'd give it a shot (but I was wanred it wasn't as good as Firefly). I'm done with season 5 and it's not bad. Her character is necessary but only a small peice of the whole pie. I don't think SMG is a very good actress but I at least gave her a shot even though I didn't like her and I'm satisfied.

IS

The Bible's a bit fuzzy on the subject of kneecaps.

RIMGIRL

Friday, August 4, 2006 3:26 PM

When someone is dissing a celebrity ("Oh, I hate her... He's so phony... He's an a**hole...), I say, "Gee, that's too bad. He/she always speaks well of you."

It's not a cure but it is a funny, sarcastic thing to say.

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WILDHEAVENFARM

Friday, August 4, 2006 3:29 PM

My hubby can't understand it either, but I just can't enjoy movies if I find the lead thespian to be annoying, etc. Prime example, Nicholas Cage - can't watch 'im.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

MIMA

Friday, August 4, 2006 5:06 PM

i suspect some people develop knee jerk blanket refusals as an effort to resist popular mentality. "if it's popular it must be crap" is the subconscious oppositional defiant thing going on, and they just pick a petty reason no one can possibly logically overcome to defend themselves with.

i adore nicholas cage. to-may-to, to-mah-to. i'm surprised no one's mentioned the actor everyone loves to rip down, keanu reeves, whom i also enjoy. people universally say he has a flat affect that is like a mask. i don't see it.

some people here are not separating the actress from the writing. if you don't like smg being "whiny" etc, you gotta talk to joss. cause that's how he wrote her. my husband and i both think buffy is a grade A selfish bitch who never learned to trust or let her friends in. doesn't mean we don't love the show. i don't hate smg, although i'm not too impressed with other movies i saw her in.

someone mentioned separating the actor/character thing. i have a hard time with this when i hear too much about the actor. i try not to read magazines like people/ew because the more i hear about people's reality, the more difficulty i have separating their roles from them. example: tom cruise. what a horrible person. i haven't been able to bring myself to watch mi3, even though mindless action flicks are my fav. i caught a bit of lestat at a friends house, loved the movie, could lose myself in the story/makeup. but to see him in contemp roles, all i'm doing is thinking "hateyouhateyou" and can't get into the movie to root for him.

i love movies. people have a right to live how they want. so i try to keep my head away from the gossip and just watch. i appreciate the idea of separating the 2 ideas, but it's hard sometimes.

ya know, the more i find out about adam baldwin, the more in love i am with jayne. adam is so gentle, refined, intelligent, wise... my god he's like some god among men. to be able to see him become jayne so completely makes me admire him all the more.

CHRISISALL

Friday, August 4, 2006 5:15 PM

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Originally posted by mima:

example: tom cruise. what a horrible person.

*shock and disbelief emoticons not available*

Horrible?
Did he kill a puppy or something?

I thought he was just a dopey actor Chrisisall

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