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9/11 NORAD tapes released...

POSTED BY: Dayve
UPDATED: Friday, August 4, 2006 23:15
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Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:48 PM

I'm going to add another $0.02.

One of the things that impressed with how the WTC towers dropped was that the failure was so simultaneous on all sides that it didn't introduce any sway. My feeling (I'm not an engineer) is that once sway is introduced it would put asymmetric strain on the shell and accentuate sway even further.

But OTOH, I know of structures that pancaked during earthquakes... large buildings in Mexico City and Kobe and the double-decker freeway near San Fran. Heck, under THOSE circumstances there would be a HUGE amount of side-to-side motion and you would expect buildings to fall over sideways and many didn't. So maybe that is just the nature of that particular building design and a normal, expected mode of failure.

BTW, if you want a both anti-conspiracy and pro-conspiracy evidence evidence in one fell swoop, all you have to do is look at the El Al cargo jet crash in Amsterdam. Like the Pentagon crash, it left no indentifiable aircraft outside of the building. But polic videotapes, the plane's manifest, and the "black box" all disappeared or were destroyed. Queen Beatrix was allowed to tour the site. It wasn't until years later that someone leaked a copy of the cargo manifest, revealing that the jet was carrying Sarin precursors.

www.geocities.com/capitolhill/4277/exposure.html

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"I would venture to say that many of us have IQs in excess of 160."

For the record, I will state I am NOT one of those people.


I'm not either. I don't even know what that means.

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RUE
Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:54 PM

I draw the analogy to earthquakes and pancakes.

Those living in an earthquake zone know about tilt-up-structures and pancaking-buildings. In a tilt-up structure, during construction the tall walls are propped up, then tied upright in place by the horizontal members (floors), usually with brackets. Once the sidewall support is gone due to an earthquake, the floors pancake.

The twin towers were the equivalent of a tilt-up structure, in that structural support was from the outer walls. (It was a different style of construction from normal.) Once the supports that tied the floors and walls together were gone, the buildings pancaked. IMHO

Edited to add: DANG ! SignyM You must think and type faster than me. I sound like a parrot, without all the interesting stuff about sway.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
First, you need to take a chill pill and stop shouting.
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Thirdly, take another chill pill.

I wouldn't, I took a chill pill along with as many happy pills as AntiMason has taken once...

Really. Damn. Trippy.



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Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:00 PM

Ignore.

I mis-read.

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:04 PM

Thanks, canttakethesky. I can't believe I missed that!




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Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:09 PM

Animason -

Read the thread before ranting, okay? Several of these questions you raise have been discussed in detail already, and answers have been supplied to a few of your problems. If you'll just take the time to listen...

Try that chill pill FMF is offering, read the posts, and join the discussion. We're reasonable. We discuss.

Back to the start of the thread - they're moving out of Norad I hear. I take this to be a very good thing!

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RUE
Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:10 PM

Citizen,

Wish I could be there. Though, for whatever reason, most drugs don't do anything to me except put me to sleep zzzzzzzz ......

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Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:15 PM

*has an urge to burn lithium*




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Thursday, August 3, 2006 7:16 PM

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...IQ in excess of 160...
Let me put it this way... when they tested my IQ they refused to tell my parents what it was so that they wouldn't be discouraged. And heck, I was trying my hardest! What I lack in native talent I make up for in ... with... uh...

{in a small voice} nevermind

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