Realistically and objectivly: What has the Bush administration done right?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, June 12, 2006 17:21
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Ahh, indignant rants from the extreme right wing, glad to see they're as easy to provoke as ever 
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Quote:A right winger advocating that the will of the people should be ignored in a democracy? A democracy where most of the people wanted to join in on the side of the Nazis or stay the hell out? Who'd a thunk it?
Originally posted by PrairieDogg:
Somebody said this is the most reactionary administration. Yeah like that great liberal Roosevelt who sat on his hands while Hitler swallowed Poland, Austria...all the while Churchill (who, by the way, had been warning his country about the Nazis for 20 years) was asking for help, until the Japanese sank our Pacific fleet.

Bring back General Pinochet eh, he knew how to deal with dem dar gawdamn liberal scum!
Quote:Yes you really should, your deductive skills are simply wasted here with us heathens!
Put down the bong and read a history book.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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Quote:Hey! TheRightStuff is back! With more words and a different handle, but the same agenda!
Originally posted by PrairieDogg:
You people are, for the most part, self righteous, deluded, stoned, morons.
Americans have great allies. But we must place our interests above all else and take action to secure those interests.
So, you know a 19 year old with too many kids? Join the club, pal. That's a social condition that arises from lack of education, not something you can blame 'Liberals' for. You're being a jerk.
Oh! Sorry...being a good 'Liberal', I guess I shouldn't be judgemental. Forget I said that. Really. Be as ignorant as you feel necessary here, I won't mind.
Let's just kill bad guys, they wear black hats so we can spot 'em and air 'em out. It's easy.
You know, you could be President someday, if you kiss the right asses.
*CoughAllianceScum*
Non-judgemental Liberal wuss Chrisisall
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Well, there really is no such thing as objectivity in a forum like this, but I will do my best. First and foremost, this administration has been faced with unprecedented challenges in America's short history. That combined with biased media coverage (it is biased one way or the other depending on who you watch.) and a country that has no stomach for fighting a war with mounting casualties and seemingly no end in sight. Here are some positives over the last few years:
*There has not been a terrorist attack since 9/11 in the U.S. or since Jack Bauer has been on T.V.
*Bush has brought attention to the issue of illegal immigration and border security. I am not saying he is handling it particularly well, but at least we have a dialogue on it.
*Saddam Hussein and his two sons are no longer brutalizing Iraqis. Yes you could say more Iraqis are dying now then before, but I would rather die standing in a voting line or Iraqi police recruiting center then in a torture chamber.
*Bush has sparked debate on some very important domestic issues that really need to be examined right now. (privacy, abortion, wiretapping, gay marriage, improved plane security, oil prices, etc.)
*He is a president that we can all laugh at and make ourselves feel smarter than we actually are.
*The continuing unrest in Iraq has made me realize (I don't know about anyone else) that the Middle East is very unstable and in need of regime change. Plus the security of our friend Israel is always threatened. (check your history, Israel is our ally and a good ally to have in that region).
*The recent spat with Iran, proves we can't just leave well enough alone in the Middle East. Not in this lifetime do I want to see a country like Iran that publicly supports a known terrorist group in possession of nuclear technology.
There are some other positives that are irrelevant now and plus I wouldn't want to be labeled an intolerant, ignorant, NRA supporting, born-again Christian, anti-gay, pro-life, uneducated, uncultured redneck by some fellow liberal Firefly fan. This may come as a surprise but I actually voted for Gore in 2000 because I thought I would rather have somebody smarter in office, however that is what advisors are for. Nowadays, I would rather have a cowboy in office who tried to do the right thing even if their plan did not go smoothly. Sound familiar?
Mal: There's over 70 earths in this verse, and the meek have inherited not a one.
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Originally posted by amIaLion:
Nowadays, I would rather have a cowboy in office who tried to do the right thing even if their plan did not go smoothly. Sound familiar?

If you perceive Bush as a cowboy, then my fellow Browncoat is truly lost.
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Actually citizen, you really should read a history book. The Nazi party only garnered about 35% of the popular vote in Germany. Since there were more than two political parties, 35% turned out to be enough. Most of the German population which was the other 65% did not want to join the National Socialist Workers Party aka the Nazi Party.
Mal: There's over 70 earths in this verse, and the meek have inherited not a one
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I was talking about America, not Germany, something plainly obvious if you read the words in my post.
Maybe you should read the those history books, I suggest a course in reading comprehension first though
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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If you perceive Bush as a cowboy, then my fellow Browncoat is truly lost.
Chrisisall
Don't tell me you haven't heard at least a few liberals and even conservatives call Bush a cowboy and seen cartoons/caricatures depicting him as a cowboy on the account of him being from Texas. Plus I didn't fight in the war, Wash and I were too busy getting stoned, so we were never fellow Browncoats to begin with...

In all seriousness, instead of prefacing your forum topic with 'Realistically and objectively', you should have titled it, 'Right Wingers or anybody closing resembling them, need not apply.'
I mean, I respect the fact that you want to try to have an open discussion about the Bush administration, but if you are going to praise those that agree with your politics and shoot down anybody that doesn't agree than why have a discussion at all?
Mal: There's over 70 earths in this verse, and the meek have inherited not a one
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Originally posted by citizen:
I was talking about America, not Germany, something plainly obvious if you read the words in my post.
Maybe you should read the those history books, I suggest a course in reading comprehension first though.
Ok, but only if you take a course on basic grammar you gorram elitist. "Maybe you should read the those history books.." It does not surprise me one bit that you are sporting Simon's icon when you should be sporting Jayne's.
How did you even learn human speech?
Also if you were talking about America, where "most of the people wanted to join in on the side of the Nazis or stay the hell out" which America are you talking about?!?
Mal: There's over 70 earths in this verse, and the meek have inherited not a one.
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Quote:The concept of a typo pass you by did it sweet pea?
Originally posted by amIaLion:
Ok, but only if you take a course on basic grammar you gorram elitist. "Maybe you should read the those history books.." It does not surprise me one bit that you are sporting Simon's icon when you should be sporting Jayne's.
I see you can pick up on minor flaws in written language but still can't quite seem to grasp the sentiment, but then MS Word’s grammar checking ability can't tell you what a sentence means now can it
.You attacked me, I went for you in exactly the same way, what’s the matter, you can dish it out but you can't take it back? Ahhh bless and now you've gone and spat the dummy all over this 'unclean' thread. It'll need cleaning and disinfecting.
Quote:The one that prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour had both a huge isolationist and a huge pro-Nazi movement, but not so much with the "let's help our struggling allies" movement. Therefore if the government had gone to war before the change of public opinion that would have been undemocratic (remembering that America still didn't declare war on Germany, Germany declared war on America
Also if you were talking about America, where "most of the people wanted to join in on the side of the Nazis or stay the hell out" which America are you talking about?!?
).Why which America are you talking about?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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