Michael Moore sued for Farenheit 9/11
POSTED BY: Amiton
UPDATED: Monday, June 5, 2006 03:06
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Gee, um as a Navy wife, your numbers are the ones that are off.
Having recently had friends that have had loved ones killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, I can tell you that what you have detailed is not happening.
The SGLI has only recently been increased to a maximum of $400,000. And not all service members carry that much. And Wowhee! A whole $700.00 for a death benefit! I guess that is to offset the overpayment you get charged if your spouse is killed after payday.
Have you actually looked at how much SSI (Social Security) you would get for a child. I did. About $211 per child. Thats a big help.
As for the access to housing and base access. Base commanders have always had the option to allow families to stay in housing for up to 6 months. It is very rarely used. All of the widows I know where given 2 weeks. In one instance, the moving truck showed up at the door before the widow got back from the funeral.
I suppose that the fact they can be buried in a national cemetary is a plus, although I don't know many people can afford the fare to get to one.
My insurance policy pays out $500,000 even in the case of a suicide. And I pay dearly for that.
All in all, the benefits offered to the military community in both death benefits as well as wage are criminal. Especially when counted against the wages of politicians.
If one wants to support the troops - be vocal on paying them a living wage.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
I'm not sure what to tell you, FMF. Well, other than the Commanders at the bases where your friends have been are jackasses. I'm sorry that there are people, especially high-ranking officers, that treat their people and their families that badly.
The numbers I gave are almost verbatim from a case I handled in January. Are they enough? No, and sadly they likely never will be. That particular spouse drew over $2000 per month in Social Security benefits for at least the next 5 years. There was no "overpayment" in that case for the salary. Perhaps the AF and the Navy handle pay very differently, but the AF is paid at the end of a pay cycle vice the beginning. Hence the additional payout of uncollected salary and allowances.
The casualty affairs office paid the entire expense of the casket, transportation, and burial costs at a National Cemetary in San Antonio from Montgomery. All of the families of the deceased that I've known in the last 15 years were offered and accepted the full 6-month housing assistance. I'm *really* sorry that you're friends have been treated as poorly as they have. If ever there were a wasted chance to make a good impression for the military, it sounds like you've seen it pretty bad. I'm sorry to see that.
Amiton.
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Quote:'Family Values' in action.
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Have you actually looked at how much SSI (Social Security) you would get for a child. I did. About $211 per child. Thats a big help.
Chrisisall
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Quote:I'm with ya on that; sounds reasonable.
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Just cut him a check for $150K and everyone's happy (except for the lawyers - screw 'em).
If you ain't a shark Chrisisall
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Gee, um as a Navy wife...
All in all, the benefits offered to the military community in both death benefits as well as wage are criminal. Especially when counted against the wages of politicians.
Not to play up my sig too much but... Did you marry for love or money? If it was love than there is not much you can do about it. People do not always make the best decisions financially in matters of the heart. If it was for money than perhaps you should have hooked up with a politician.
De-lurking to stir stuff up.
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My respnose has nothing to do with my marriage. I am a lifelong Navy dependent. I am and was well aware of the status quo. Being aware of it and living with it, does not make it right.
Military families are the most ignored entity in American society. The current climate is all about "supporting the troops" but it is all lipservice. What the troops REALLY need is pay that is at least equal to the civilian world. They need to know that their families are well cared for. They need to KNOW that when they are done serving their country - that they can find a well paying job, and that their families are taken care of in case of their death - especially if they die on duty.
That isn't happening. I would suggest to you, that this is ONE topic you do not want to debate with me.
Amiton- you are right NOTORIOUSLY the Air Force takes better care of their people. I tell anyone that listens to go AF if they are going to go at all.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Um... Back on topic: F-9/11.
This is for all those who say "Wow, he was SO right on the money with that movie":
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
Prety good read.
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dc4bs
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Of course Farenheit 911 is full of crap, but the attention it brings to the morally corrupt present administration* is worth it. It's like holding up a devil sign with an arrow; the questioning is the point, I think.
* Please note I said 'present', I know there were many others.
Chrisisall
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Quote:Browncoats don't marry for money. They marry for love and figger out a way to get the money. Even legal ways.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Did you marry for love or money?
De-lurking to stir stuff up.
What moon are you from?
Chrisisall
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I'm not arguing that.
The forward to the article also says that Bush was dishonest too. But that 2 wrongs don't make a right...
It even recomends a couple of FACTUAL books to read discussing the issues with the Bush presidency.
Basicaly, if Moore told me the sky was blue, I'd want to check with at least 3 REPUTABLE scientists just to make sure.
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dc4bs
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Quote:Funny, all I wanted was ONE actual WMD to make sure...
Originally posted by dc4bs:
Basicaly, if Moore told me the sky was blue, I'd want to check with at least 3 REPUTABLE scientists just to make sure.
Chrisisall
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