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Thursday, June 1, 2006 5:50 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
News Flash:
Not everyone in the world is either evil, deluded, or desperatly wanting to be an American.


No, the fourth group are the idiot liberals who are desperately wanting to be evil or deluded.

H

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 5:52 PM

Oh, I thought that was the deluded neocns desperately wanting to be right.

"Right"

Get it? chuckle chuckle!

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Apparently he has never heard of the German-American Bund.


Are they a Polka Band?

I grew up in Pennsylvania, I know all about the German-American heritage. I also know that your talking about a few loonies here and there and some fraternal organizations, relief societies, and folk who thought the Klan dress code was too strict.

I think your confusing this tiny pro-german minority, oddly it was problably about the same size as the number of midgets in the country (another tiny minority...gee long way for a bad joke there), anyway your confusing this small group with the isolationists who actively opposed foriegn entanglements. I think this is a mistake, the two while sharing some common interests, ie avoiding American intervention in the European War, their interests diverge at that point.

As for the Japs, yes they got put in camps, but then we not only let them live, we let them out, let them rejoin society, and decades later we gave them a wad of cash. I say they got off easy considering what usually happens when an ethnic minority gets locked up in a camp...ovens, slave labor, Streisand concerts...Now look at them, the Japs love video games, movies, baseball, and democracy, none of which their prewar culture would have tolerated. Japan, remade in our image and look, its still as Japanese as ever. Aint liberty grand?

H

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RUE
Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:07 PM

Zero,

Dude, you gotta stop those drugs. You're babbling.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
News Flash:
Not everyone in the world is either evil, deluded, or desperatly wanting to be an American.


No, the fourth group are the idiot liberals who are desperately wanting to be evil or deluded.

H

And the fifth are the idiot conservatives that want things the old (all their own) way, and are prepared to do and allow great evil to get it.

No vote for women, Witch burnings, torture of non-Christians, Blacks were born to be slaves 'right' 'Hero'.

I'm glad from your position of never leaving your home town or even knowing the history of your own country you feel you have a crystal ball into the secret workings of the world and the minds of others, because by your constant protestations that anyone who doesn't think like you is evil/deluded/wants to be evil and deluded just proves you're the most anti-American person posting on these boards.

Liberty! Ha, liberty to do what Hero considers correct is nothing but a dictatorship.

But maybe that's the world you'd be happiest in, the world run by Hero, Liberty for all (who think like Hero) death and enslavement for others.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:14 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
edit - in 1690 John Locke was speaking of America as in the English colonies, not America as in the country - since the country (a) wasn't a country, (b) wasn't a democracy and (c) the reference is for Provincial America, your quote is ill used.


I know you read fast and probably just read every word Locke wrote...maybe you should slow down and think about what he said.

Locke was making a counter argument to the Hobbes theory that violence was the natural state of man and that man is more then willing to trade liberty for security in order to obtain safety from the violence of others.

Locke's idea was the governments ought exist only from the consent of the governed and that natural rights such as life, liberty, and property ought to be the foundation of any such undertaking. These ideas, written at a time when despotism was the order of things was an innovation. In talking about America Locke saw a vast land of opportunity far from the oppressive hand of European despotism. A place where men could live free and develop a state based upon such a free undertaking. Less then a hundred years saw this happen.

H

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
But maybe that's the world you'd be happiest in, the world run by Hero, Liberty for all (who think like Hero) death and enslavement for others.


Wow, can't argue with that. I mean you CAN NOT argue with that...otherwise I'll have you killed. HAHAHAHA, evil Hero wanting liberty for all! A world where Jews are allowed to live and women are not property. Where justice involves courts and juries instead of rape and torture rooms (except for terrorists convieniantly located in third party nations). Forcing the world to worship as they choose or don't choose. Demanding we all be either straight or homosexual. Children in schools and not brothels or sweat shops. Armies fighting wars of liberation and security rather then conquest, terror, or ethnic cleansing. Demanding that people rule their own lives rather then giving that power over to would be dicators Washington, some other country, or down the street. Prosecuting innocent Pirates for Driving Whilst Intoxicated or Speeding without a valid Ohio Drivers license. Bow to me and by "bow" I mean stand, sit, smoke, eat, watch TV, go shopping, cheer, complain, take a vacation, build something, invent something, or just plain do nothing and be glad of it so long as its your choice, your voice, your responsibility, and your not going to ever see another Streisand concert, Richard Gere movie, or Senator Hillary Clinton cause even "Hero's World of Perfect Liberty, Harmony, and Justice for All Except Liberal Wackos and Pirates" has its limits. Its a great "World", we're thinking of building in the Orlando area, you should all visit.

H

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:46 PM

Well you talk the talk (nearly) but you don't walk the walk.

In you world I'm a deluded evil person who deserves to die because I'm happy being British and living in Britain, where as we all know you've decided the only people worthy of life or Liberty are those that are right-wing Americans or people who want to be right-wing Americans.

Sorry what you call liberty isn't.

You don't want liberty for all, you want to impose your will on all, I realise it's possible you don't know the difference, but I think everyone should know exactly what it is you're saying when you say 'Liberty'.

Conservative wackos who decide unilaterally who is worthy of life and who is worthy of liberty, based entirely on whether those they judge are also conservative wackos are the wackos that fit you’re personal seal of approval I suppose.

So yes bow to Hero, and by that I mean stand, sit, smoke, eat, watch TV, go shopping, cheer, complain, take a vacation, build something, invent something, or just plain do nothing, just make sure you do it in the good conservative way or you’re a liberal which mean’s you are evil and at fault for everything, therefore must be shot.

Also think like Hero and his narrow view of American thought, anything else is a thought crime and you will be put in a camp to be taught how to think properly, in the nicest possible way of course.




More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Thursday, June 1, 2006 6:47 PM

"I DEMAND you rule your own life!"
Wow, now ain't THAT an oxymoron?


EDIT: Citizen I think you've hit the nail on the head. Our self-styled "Hero" would ram liberty- oh and BTW capitalism- down everyone's throat. I have nothing against liberty; in fact I enjoy it quite a bit and I wish the right wing would actually practice it more often instead of using it as an excuse for invasion and loss of civil liberty.

I'd like to promote liberty, but I think that MOST people actually have a Hobbesian view of the world. Security, employment, some control over the future.... liberty really comes at the end of that list, when everything else is taken care of (a little bit like Maslow's hieracrchy of needs but on a societal scale).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

"Hero" just can't imagine that anyone else might be different but might also be right.
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Thursday, June 1, 2006 7:12 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Its a great "World", we're thinking of building in the Orlando area, you should all visit.

H



But will there be amusing hats with ears on them? If the answer is no then I'm not interested, I have my standards.....

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