US Border Patrol gives Minutemen locations to Mexican Gov't. !!
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 13:40
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If all they're doing is watching the border why are they armed? Why are they afraid for their safety? Its vigilantism, a bunch of Cowboys who think it's still the 1860's and they're "gonna get them varmints, yeehah! I'm a callin' you out bawy!".
Gee, Citizen..why on Earth would they ever THINK of being armed ? Hmmmmm ( I know I mentioned this in my other post, but this gives a bit more detail to the matter. )
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Gang will target Minuteman vigil on Mexico border
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
NACO, Ariz. -- Members of a violent Central America-based gang have been sent to Arizona to target Minuteman Project volunteers, who will begin a monthlong border vigil this weekend to find and report foreigner sneaking into the United States, project officials say.
James Gilchrist, a Vietnam veteran who helped organize the vigil to protest the federal government's failure to control illegal immigration, said he has been told that California and Texas leaders of Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, have issued orders to teach "a lesson" to the Minuteman volunteers
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
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Originally posted by UnregisteredCompanion:
I was starting to smell "conspiracy wacko" but as I was reading this first couple of posts...Fox News also broke the story.
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"Conspiracy whacko" ? Ouch, you doth wound me, UnregisteredCompaion. I leave such whacko post for the likes of Piratenews. This is simply how it is. I still hope there's some big mix up, but so far, the word from the Gov't hasn't been reassuring.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by LysCat:
I mean not having the pledge of Allegience at school anymore? How many years before us were our parents and grandparents saying that? No one ever complained too much.
They still say it where I teach. We say it every morning, with the bulletin. Almost all schools in my area do. This is one of those 'War on Xmas' issues that when one school does it, it's "Oh no, we're becoming unglued!"
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for immagration and America being the 'promised land,' but I just don't think that America should lose it's identity.
America's identity is about immigration and racial mixing. Does "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" ring a bell?
Sorry if I'm snarky, but for some reason this thread has me wound up today. What's weirder, is the more I argue, the more I'm coming down on the side I wasn't even sure I agreed with when I started today. Go figure.
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"THEY SHOULDN'T BE PATROLLING!"
You know what... I've got to agree with you.
First, let's make a new law that says that non-law-enforcement personnel aren't allowed within X miles of the border, and that anyone caught within this perimiter is to be arrested.
Then, let's enforce this law. Let's hire thousands of patrolmen to enforce the border policy. We'll call them... The Border Patrol. That's catchy. They probably ought to be a subdivision of the Department for Homeland Security, perhaps directed by Customs.
Then we'll finance this new agency and give them whatever support they need to catch those lawbreakers who violate the border zone. With this program in place, violations of the Border Zone would be reduced, and a safer climate would be had by all.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Deal. I'm all for it. As a matter of fact, why don't we train some of our Guard to work as border patrol agents. To me, THAT is an effective way to handle the problem. We'd probably have the budget for it if we weren't mishandling the 'War On A Concept,' but that's another issue entirely.
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"why don't we train some of our Guard to work as border patrol agents?"
That strikes me as a blazingly good idea, especially since it SOUNDS like the National Guard is meant to Guard our Nation, and patrolling the border seems a good way to do that.
You could easily divide up the thousands of National Guardsmen into small groups of 4 men led my a Customs/Border Patrol officer. Then they could patrol the border in force and with effectiveness.
--Anthony
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Originally posted by LysCat:
Well, America has changed. I mean when immigrants come here they should have a little more respect for the the bases in which this country was built upon.
If it came down to obeying the laws of a foreign nation, or giving you and your childrren the opportunity to live a better life, which would you choose? I too think they should respect the law, but I understand why they don't.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Doesn't make them 'bad', 'evil' or 'inferior', but they are still illegal. And me pointing out that simple fact doesn't make me a 'racist' or a 'bigot'.
I know it doesn't make you racist. I never said it did.
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I WANT more people to become Americans. America is a great place, and I want them to love it as much as I do, if not more. But how the hell can they respect this country when they ignored so many of it's basic laws?
I agree with you that they should learn to love or at least respect this country. But once again, I'll ask the question: Laws, or a better life for you and/or your family?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Gee, what do you call the Mexican Americans, citizens who are also part of this effort ? Are 'they' racist too? There's nothing RACIST about this in the least.
"Nothing racist about this in the least"? Ha! That's funny! It seems fairly obvious that some of them are racist. I understand that many of them (maybe even the majority of them) are not racists, but there are bound to be some. The Minutemen are a perfect opportunity for a hardcore racist. You can descriminate without worrying about the consequences. You can carry a gun. But most of all, you get to help stop Mexicans from entering the country. The group wasn't founded for a racist cause, but it is compatible with some racists' goals.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When you call it 'vigilantism, you have never shown more ignorance at any time while posting on FFF.net...and that's saying a lot.
Actually its your ignorance, but that's par for the course. I realise you probably don't know what vigilantism means though, so do you need me to quote the dictionary or go straight to drawing the inevitable picture for you?
Vigilantism is people taking the law in to their own hands, since that's pretty much what they're doing, because your law enforcement agencies are incapable of doing it themselves I think the word fits quite well. Most people in most democratic nations demand the government improves they're law enforcement agencies, your mates grab their guns and head for the border.
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Gee, Citizen..why on Earth would they ever THINK of being armed ? Hmmmmm ( I know I mentioned this in my other post, but this gives a bit more detail to the matter. )
Well golly gee there big 'A', would that be them folks that have decided to take that there law into there own hands by raisin' a posse?
Gee, what's this? On their own website they say strictly no contact with immigrants.
They can't be following their own rules huh.
Someone's going to get killed and the only people to blame will be them, running around with guns getting in the way of violent and desperate criminals and the proper authorities.
"You're running around with guns, what did you think was going to happen."
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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