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Silver Lining... Nuking the US

POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 16:16
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Monday, April 24, 2006 2:57 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

Citizen: It's truly amazing you talk about stuff about which you know nothing.
AURaptor: True, but if I only spoke on subjects that I had some knowledge of I'd be mute.
Citizen: You have a point.


LOLROTf**kingF!!!!

*wipes tears* Good one, C.
I owe ya a litre for the laugh.

Chrisisall

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Monday, April 24, 2006 3:52 PM

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Siggy, now you're just making stuff up.
No, actually, I'm not. Here's the proof of the 2-3:1 ratio of Palestinian to israeli deaths.
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From Sept. 29, 2000 to April 19, 2006: Israeli Dead: 1010
Palestinian Dead: 3872

Look here for a chart www.mepc.org/resources/mrates.asp
As far as Iraqi deaths, the current total of documented individual civilian deaths since the invasion range from 33,679 to 37,795. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq About 7300 were due to the USA during the invasion period itself. USA-caused deaths have continued since the "end of major combat operations", totaling about 10,000. Since then sectarian violence has increased, but so has crime, so it is difficult to parse out how many civilian deaths are due to Sunnis killing Shiites (and vice versa) and how many are due to robberies, kidnappings gone wrong etc. Assuming that MOST of the remaining deaths are due to sectarian violence (I'm assuming that 80% of the reaminder are due to sectarian violence and 80% of that is due to Sunnis... don't forget, it's not just Sunnis doing the killing) that makes the USA and Sunni counts about equal.

www.iraqbodycount.net/press/pr13.php

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If you took 1/2 a momment to look at all the events of Islamic terrorism around the world that DON'T involve Israel or Iraq, you couldn't come to any other conclusion that the 2 things are NOT 'exactly right'.
Call me stupid- it's OK it's been done b4- but... what? What do you mean by "not exactly right"?
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Monday, April 24, 2006 4:03 PM

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Hey Signy, what's you favourite season of Buffy? (I know, I know, but I never see you on ANY OTHER BOARD!!!!!)
That's because I LIVE here, Chrisisall! You see, I'm not a real person, I'm an inet bot. A really complex one, but just a bot. heh heh heh

Here is my other home http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=109
I'm not going to challenge you to find me.... this bot changes colors like a chameleon... but you won't find anyone under the name of SignyM.

But to answer your question- this bot didn't like Buffy. This bot liked Angel better.
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Just a figment of someone else's imagination.

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Monday, April 24, 2006 5:51 PM

And some more pics that have to do with Chernobyl (nobody can accuse the BBC of being lazy regarding the Chernobyl issue):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/in_pictures_inside_th
e_belarussian_zone/html/1.stm


And some more stuff:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/guides/456900/456957/html/nn1pag
e1.stm




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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:25 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I finally had a chance to read the whole interview through. It made me shudder. I understand that a consortium will be building a new containment building- a 300-ft building in the shape of a Quonset hut that will be made several miles from the reactor site (too radioactive to work nearby) and slid into place on rails. It will cover Reactor 4, the control room, the Sarcophagus... everything. What a mess. From what I've read, the rooms below the reactor are filled with a fused mixture of fuel rods, concrete, and steel. everyhting melted together in the intense heat and slagged the rooms below. I'm not sure if anyone really knows what's down there. I would imagine that the radiation would cause even radiation-hardened remote cameras to go haywire.

As I understand it, the reactor controls- including the control rods- ran on power from the turbines that were powered by the reactor itself. Some time during power-down the reaction went crazy (the reason I heard was that it was an ad hoc experiment in controlling the reactor during power-down) but there wasn't enough juice in the spinning-down turbine to slam down the control rods. If anyone heard anything different I'd be glad to know.

Also, there are areas that are still highly radioactive, including an area just west of the reactor called the Red Forest which received the initial dump of radionuclides. It's called the Red Forest because of the unusula color of the )dead) pine needles.

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I read that they have cleaned up " the red forest "... burned the trees off and bulldozed the area taking the topsoil with them or something...

Anyway from the original Al Jazzera post

" Some areas were so soaked with radioactivity that they had to be razed, such as a pine forest that became known as the Red Forest for the levels of radiation registered there.

Over the next six years, nature slowly recovered, Alexakhin said.


Maria Semenyuk is among about
350 settlers in the zone
Today it is coming back.

Serhiy Franchuk, a guide for the Chernobylinterinform - the state enterprise that provides the obligatory guides for all visitors - says that the pines planted in place of the Red Forest are thriving. "

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/9F35685C-26F0-4C37-9258-EA65685
74793.htm





" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

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RUE
Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:41 PM

Gino,

When I don't visit every day, things drop off my radar.

I accept your posts in the spirit with which they were intended - as a geniune dialogue with many participants.

The BBC article was much more measured about Chernobyl's recovery. They pointed out that animals ranging in and out of the contaminated areas do better than animals that stay. That many mutations have been found in animals which are tested. That animals which are severely affected are ill and are probably eaten before they are seen. And they mention other caveats.

My opinion is that the reason why things are going 'so well' at Chernobyl (and Hanford) is that MOST of the contamination is still underground. That it is still underground is by active human effort. Nuclear contamination is not benign.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:49 PM

If y'all want to see something interesting, check this out:
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
This girl/woman rides her motorcycle through the dead zone around Chernobyl...very sobering look at what was left behind.

One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
http://serenityjune23rd.com/

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Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:16 PM

Q & A about Chernobyl (BBC again): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4946456.stm



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