Silver Lining... Nuking the US
POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 16:16
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Geezer,
Quote:I just wanted to briefly reply to your Hanford post. Slick, there is a massive waste, land, and groundwater remediation project costing $100B+ protecting the Columbia River. Hanford is not a model for idyllic laissez-faire nuclear contamination.
Already done at Hanford.
Since I know you know this, I assume you lie on purpose.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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OK Siggy, I sense a mild misunderstanding here. You picked up on the treatment of women issue, and that is indeed important and valid. But that was only one point I made out of a list. Neither religion can claim to be guiltless, we'll agree. To be honest, I've had FAR more harsh words toward the Fundamentalist Christians than Muslims. Or did,...I suspect the tide turned sharply after 9/11. While we'll agree on the HISTORY of both religions, my primary concern deals w/ events in current times. Humanity allows for some really strange variations of behavior through out the world. Mostly in the name of 'religion'. But lets try to be honest. For every Westboro Baptists Church ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25s ) , there's an entire country run by Islamic theocrats. For every occasional doctor murdered by an Christian ' right to lifer ', there's 10's - 100's ? of car/suicide bombers, doing Allah's work on Earth.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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For every suicide bomber, there are two or three innocent civilian victims in Palestine. For every death due to insurgents, there is at one death due to the USA invasion. In doesn't matter to the dead and their families whether the cause is Allah, Yaweh, Jesus, oil, or "freedom". Just because we perpetrate death with less personal involvement- fanaticism, if you will - doesn't make us any less scary to anyyone who is looking down the barrel of our gun.
Believing blindly that "we are right" and justifying death-dealing is doing exactly- exactly - the same as a suicide bomber. Why can't you see that?
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Yeah. The world is nuts. It really stinks to be an amercian. It stinks because Well, I am being screwed by my govermaent, and plus thanks to my goverment, I could get a bomb dropped on my head. Really, I would like to move to Austraila. See, if I had the money I would move to another country. But, who knows where its safe nowadays. IT is insane that people voted for this guy again. Anway how do we even know if the count was true? Rich people have such a control over the world to live out thier fantasies of power. Even still, THey say that one is just as bad as the other, but I guess you can choose the less of the two evils. Who knows. Well I thinks I'm gonna start diggen a fallout shelter in my backyard.
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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Geezer,Quote:I just wanted to briefly reply to your Hanford post. Slick, there is a massive waste, land, and groundwater remediation project costing $100B+ protecting the Columbia River. Hanford is not a model for idyllic laissez-faire nuclear contamination.
Already done at Hanford.
Since I know you know this, I assume you lie on purpose.
Nope. Just pointing out that the US has already been nuked, in a manner of speaking, (that being the subject of the thread) and that the wildlife seems to be doing as well there as at Chernobyl. I have never considered radiation contamination a cost-effective means of natural habitat restoration. Maybe biological weapons targeted to humans, though...
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Another testing site..... gone tourist destination ?
http://www.bikiniatoll.com/
Hell, reading this site interests me in checking it out.
" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
The Killers
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html
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and Another ????
Tests
http://www.janeresture.com/christmas_bombs/
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Dominic.html
Tourism
http://www.christmas.net.au/introduction.html
Is weapons testing less destructive than Nuclear power ?
" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
The Killers
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html
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Slick,
There's no surface contamination in the US (yet) - that's the difference between Chernobyl and Hanford. That's why the wildlife 'appears' to be doing well at Hanford.
And Chernobyl isn't an idyllic laissez-faire radioactive wildlife preserve. First of all, it's not laissez-faire. Many heroic people died or are now walking dead. http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/chernobyl-heroes-a-dying-breed/200
6/04/21/1145344280312.html They are the ones who dumped boron, put out the fires, built and maintained the containment, monitored and monitor for radiation spikes, and run in from time to time to dump - by hand - gadolinium down the hole to kill fission. Contamination of the Prypyat River via groundwater is a major concern. The BBC wildlife report on Chernobyl is more measured and far less reassuring. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4923342.stm
You can't equate Hanford with Chernobyl. And you can't call Chernobyl a pristine nature preserve.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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This doesn't really contribute anything to the debate, but I think it's interesting nonetheless:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/in_pictures_c
hernobyl_zone_residents/html/1.stm
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
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SignyM wrote:
Sunday, April 23, 2006 08:18
For every suicide bomber, there are two or three innocent civilian victims in Palestine. For every death due to insurgents, there is at one death due to the USA invasion. In doesn't matter to the dead and their families whether the cause is Allah, Yaweh, Jesus, oil, or "freedom". Just because we perpetrate death with less personal involvement- fanaticism, if you will - doesn't make us any less scary to anyyone who is looking down the barrel of our gun.
Believing blindly that "we are right" and justifying death-dealing is doing exactly- exactly - the same as a suicide bomber. Why can't you see that?
Siggy, now you're just making stuff up. On Good Friday in Alexandria, Egypt, a knife wielding Muslim man attacked worshippers in 2 Coptic Churches, killing 1 and injuring 15 more. He was yelling ' There no God but Allah, Allah is great ' all the while. If you took 1/2 a momment to look at all the events of Islamic terrorism around the world that DON'T involve Israel or Iraq, you couldn't come to any other conclusion that the 2 things are NOT 'exactly right'.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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