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POSTED BY: gypsylife
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Friday, January 13, 2006 11:33 PM

What the F*** part of "You can't stop the signal" don't they understand?

Oh, and I'm new, only got 2 copies of the movie and the boxed series. =) Although they messed up and gave 2 disc 1's instead of a disc 2 =(

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Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:05 PM

Psolaris...

phtpht! spare me.




Queeny: "The Seven Samurai" and "Yojimbo".

You wanna know what Kurosawa movies to go see?

"Seven Samurai" and "Yojimbo".

Start there. Then we'll tackle Kurosawa's other films.. actually, you'll probably be so in love with them you won't need any prodding from me.

Seeing art like this will probably be the best thing possible for an aspiring author like yourself.

XG


No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Monday, January 16, 2006 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XeroGravity:
Psolaris...

phtpht! spare me.



Spare you which part? My feelings on Depp and Burton, my ramblings about Kurosawa (I took a film class about him in college), or me wishing you good rest?

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:45 PM

Psolaris:

None of the above. You're clearly offended and I would be too given what I wrote. It reads the wrong way. I was trying to be terse after that blustery windbag performance in my last post. Being boozed up loosens the lips, much to my own detriment.

I was referring to your suggestion I "blog". I hate 99 percent of people who "blog". Fuck'm. Who do they think they are? Someone wants to write a blog and has the boldness to think their opinions & meditations on life are worth reading, they better live a life that makes it so. Suffer and struggle, become a talented painter (the list is endless), an author (endless list that is hopelessly long), a doctor who cures some fatal disease (can count them on one hand), a craftsman who builds things that will live forever and take people's breaths away (need a history book for that one), etc.

Someone does that and they can blog their ass off and say something I give a shit about reading. Few do. Blogs are nothing more than people spewing their worthless personal diaries out over the net, as if someone gives a shit. When I cure cancer, solve the "world peace" problem, or manage to top the world's record for doing the Rubik's Cube one-handed in under 11 seconds, I'll blog.



Till then, I remain, worthlessly yours,

XG


ps - I'll come back later and address your other topics. Just superbusy with RL shit at the moment.





No such thing as gravity. The "Earth-that-was" just sucks.

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Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:59 PM

Nope...not offended at all. I promise. Just didn't know what you were referring to. I knew you wouldn't like the blogging comment b/c you've stated before you don't like the thought of doing it, but I was illustrating a point about your ability to write. I actually like your windbagness, as you put it. (is that a word?)

Take care of RL shit...get back to this when you can. RL may suck, but it's important and some such.



Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:14 PM

Psolaris:

WARNING LABEL: I'm hitting the bottle again. Don't worry. I'm not near drunk yet but probably will be by the time I get to the end of this post. If your 3 gig memory chip explodes, you'll know I'm excessively shitfaced.

Ok. Second will be Depp and Burton. A weird mix of good and bad. But first is Kurosawa.

You a film school student? You must be if you took a class on Kurosawa. Just gotta be a film school thing. I'm not impressed. The thought of film school teachers even daring to allow the name of Kurosawa to cross their lips is an absolute desecration of something sacred. I sometimes watch short films produced by film school students in my spare time. Rest assured, there is an infinite supply of zeros wanting to work in hollywood. Who needs Ed Wood when we have that bottomless cesspool of no-talent trash. Braindead film school students love to make shit that is so bad, you just know it's gonna get them a job directing lowbudget lowbrow sitcoms or TV commercials. "Crazy Eddie's Used Auto Emporium" will prosper given the future crop of wannabes. They ape every pathetic trendy thing they see and try to produce some 15 minute masterpiece that would rival the "best of" clips from MTV's reality shows. Check out some film school shorts online and you'll stop wondering why hollywood sucks so bad. Someone pissed in the gene pool. I think it's a reflection of their teachers. Film school "teachers" are the only industry whores worse than the actors. They are always artsy frauds who couldn't get a job pretending to be a crackhead critic, so now they teach. Somewhere out there, some mad scientist is mixing the DNA of James Lipton (of PBS) and failed ex-public school educators so they can breed mutant film school teachers. I can only imagine how Samurai movies and the whole Kurosawa warrior-ethos would be described by those intestinal parasites. The only way to get an education on Kurosawa is to watch his films. Whenever you find someone making films who was influenced by him, you'll find a good filmmaker (Lucas, Tarantino, Sergio Leone, etc). The copycats are never as good as the master.

When Kurosawa's career was waning (because political winds didn't favor him ~ and they never do when you're a true talent), he put everything he had on the line (including his own money and reputation) to make a film. It was destined to be hated by the critics. Predictable. He got trashed pretty bad by the whole industry. But then every film he ever made was a make-or-break gamble. That's why he's legendary. And that film of course is a classic cornerstone of arthouse cinema these days (outside of film schools), but back then it was trounced. So much so that Kurosawa wanted to end his life, to save face because he felt shamed and dishonored. He went for the gold medal in the suicide olympics, the real deal. It wasn't your everyday brand of generic suicide.

In hollywood it's fashionable and very sexy to feign a suicide attempt after going on a drug and booze binge for a couple months. A desperate cry for help from a tortured soul that can't bare a life without art. If you're a celebrity or in the film industry, fake a suicide attempt and people will love and worship you (just make sure you aren't having an ellicit love affair with someone from the Kennedy family, cuz you might accidentally succeed). If all goes well and you fail as planned, you'll be the talk of the town, A party favorite at the Betty Ford clinic. 12-steppers everywhere will be uncorking whiskey bottles and toasting you at AA meetings. Just make sure to give your personal throng of paparazzi advance notice (anonymously of course). Celebrity pseudo-suicide and the subsequent pity parties are all formula nowadays. Not like the good ole days of suicide.

And then it happens. RINGRING. "Hey this is Oprah. Wanna come on my show and share your innermost feelings about the hardships of fame and your suicidal struggle with addiction? Superdooper. Cya at the orgy tonight."

For Kurosawa, suicide was about art and honor. If the hollywood elites adopted Kurosawa's s

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:57 PM

Psolaris,
On recommending Kurosawa films you also forgot Dreams. 8 short stories that are very well done. Also his last film which was "Not yet" if I remember correctly, the Japanese title should be mada da yo. Yeah hangs head in shame, I still need to see some of Kurosawa's films. Saw Ran on the big screen and loved it especially since I learned later that part of it was filmed in the part of Japan I had lived in. Another good one that I have seen is called Heaven and Earth. Diff producer, but really good and set during the Sengoku jidai era ie Warring States Period of Japan. Hope that helps ya. What can I say, I like to pop in everyonce in a while
mata, Ookami yori

jya Chanbara eiga doko doko desu ka?
Ain't it a gorram fact when the other boy has two blades and you only got one well he is tryen to spill your blood. Time for dance of your life here huh

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:12 PM

Ooh, there's a Kurosawa film that takes place in the Warring States Era? I would definitely love to see that. Now I have to go track down every Kurosawa film I can find. Which unfortunately may be zero.

So, XG, I take your post to mean that Kurosawa is dead then? Or did he fail at killing himself? It's a terrible shame that an artist like that would see fit to end his life.

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Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:21 PM

Hey Queen of North
The Heaven and Earth movie is not a Kurosawa movie its done by some one else. Not sure if any of Kurosawa's films are warring state period or not, with his its kinda hard to tell. Don't pay any attention to XG's ramblings on Kurosawa's suicide. Very typical Japanese if you will. And also very sad that he felt that ending his life was the way out for him (Kurosawa). He is one of the top directors/producers for the Chanbara genra(sp?). Chanbara is the name given to all the Samurai dramas and epics you will see on Japanese t.v. today. Usually have long dual sequances. Some can be a little hooky(sp?) but are really fun to watch. Hope that helps you out.
mata, Ookami yori

Surren time to go a forgen and then back to Gorram picket lines and another night of boring duty.

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Friday, January 20, 2006 12:16 AM

Newp, I wasn't a film student actually. But what I did study you might consider as "close enough." I was a theatre production major in college, and we did much Shakespeare studying (as any theatre major does). I took many classes which studied the various aspects of Shakespeare's works (plays, sonnets, etc), and two of the classes that I took was a study of Shakespeare done on film. That's how I was introduced to Kurosawa. Our professor would have us watch a Shakespeare film, like King Lear for example, then speak about how much Will has influenced others, and even other cultures, and then in turn we'd watch Ran and we would all discuss the similarities in the storylines. There was a whole list of these films that we'd watch from Kurosawa in this class...and considering the fact that I have always loved kung fu movies, I took a great liking to Kurosawa and his Samurai movies.

After I graduated from college, I did become involved in a small film production company here in my city, however since we were small, and since we didn't make much of a profit (we would put up much of our own monies to produce something), the company went under. Most of the members scattered when the founder of the company said he didn't want to do this kind of thing anymore. That's the only experience I have with film making however...I never did it in college.


Ookami, I'll have to check out Dreams. I've only ever seen his early works, but when I Googled that one, it definitely sparked my interest. I love anything I've seen of his so far. I think he's got some great vision, IMHO. I hope I can find it at my local Hollywood Video.

Queeny, yep, Kurosawa did attempt suicide, in the 1970's I believe it was, but was unsuccessful at it. He died at the ripe old age of 88 in 1998.

XG...sigh, I fear I'll never hear your ramblings on Depp or Burton. Indeed they are a weird mix, but dammit if I don't love anything they've done together. I even suffered through a performance by Winona Ryder to watch Scissorhands, and Ryder aside, I love that film...and I HATE, I LOATHE, and I DESPISE that I love a film with her in it, damn damn dammit all to hell!! Now you've definitely got me interested in what you have to say about...oh, um hang on a sec, I just got an error message about my 3 gig memory ch***************


Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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