An idea and a website to bring back Firefly!
POSTED BY: browncoatsriseagain
UPDATED: Thursday, March 16, 2006 23:06
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Originally posted by Mick91:
Organization and Browncoats don't really mix. The word is already getting out on the street and if Joss is listening, have faith that it will probably happen on its own (without your donations).
Nothing would make me happier than if Joss responded with a C&D. The Browncoat community simply doesn't need to get into the same disasterous situation that the Save Enterprise crowd created.
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Originally posted by SheUnderstands:
That is, your answers to people's concerns are exactly what a con would say...
Yes. Sadly, any money that has been contributed already is probably gone. This person says, essentially, that you aren't risking much in exchange for the chance of a great reward. That's at the heart of a con. Watch the film "House of Games" for an excellent portrait of a con. Browncoats are generally nice people who want desperately to believe. They are sacrificial to the point of donating to collectively purchase the original browncoat or donate DVDs to a library. Unfortunately, that makes us a good mark. The show we all love is about a handful of crooks, albeit likeable ones. We should be better at spotting another Badger or Patience. Remember what Book said in the BDM: He'll sidle up to you in a friendly way and then hit you where you're weak.
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Not even being able to bring up the website anymore isn't instilling much trust either.
I suggest the course of freezing the account for now. Until someone we already trust gives the green light.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Not even being able to bring up the website anymore isn't instilling much trust either.
I suggest the course of freezing the account for now. Until someone we already trust gives the green light.
Must be that Andrew Schultz figured that he's conned all the money that he's gonna get out of this crowd.
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www.pledgebank.com
This, in my opinion, is a far far better solution
for this issue. You only actually donate money
when a target's been reached. When it'll make
a difference.
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Well, looks like he folded under pressure.
"No more donations are being taken at this time!
We are in the process of returning all donations received. We came up against insurmountable odds and legal issues launching our fund-riasing drive. firefly@browncoatsriseagain.com
If the money is buring a hole in your pocket, please buy a DVD. Firely and Serenity sales at this time will further our cause. We will continue the fight to re-light Firefly using other methods. Thank you for you support in our first 36 hours of activity. "
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Looks can be deceiving. I got lots of well thought out responses and flames for this idea.
It brought out a lot of bitterness in people that I simply did not expect. It also brought a lot of generosity and love I didn't fully expect either.
We stopped the campaign, not because of the bitterness, but because of a television producer who got a hold of me and taught me a little more about the inside of the television world.
It's about not being an albatross around Joss' neck. A lot of decisions in Film/TV are made on an emotional level. We were approaching this entirely from a logical level (nerds that we are). It was made clear to me that a decision maker would react badly to fan's money being involved in the production no matter how it was presented.
So, after a night of tossing and turning, I woke up this morning and decided to close down the campaign before it got really big and impossible to stop.
I just completed refunding everyone's money. I closed the account so no more money would come in.
We do have several other ideas to help with DVD sales and marketing those numbers to the decision makers.
I hope to partner with the Browncoat's 'verse in the future to help make this happen. It will be a partnership. No more suprises!
Again, thanks again for every bit of input. I loved doing it and I will be around.
Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
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Looks can be deceiving. I got lots of well thought out responses and flames for this idea.
It brought out a lot of bitterness in people that I simply did not expect. It also brought a lot of generosity and love I didn't fully expect either.
We stopped the campaign, not because of the bitterness, but because of a television producer who got a hold of me and taught me a little more about the inside of the television world.
It's about not being an albatross around Joss' neck. A lot of decisions in Film/TV are made on an emotional level. We were approaching this entirely from a logical level (nerds that we are). It was made clear to me that a decision maker would react badly to fan's money being involved in the production no matter how it was presented.
So, after a night of tossing and turning, I woke up this morning and decided to close down the campaign before it got really big and impossible to stop.
I just completed refunding everyone's money. I closed the account so no more money would come in.
We do have several other ideas to help with DVD sales and marketing those numbers to the decision makers.
I hope to partner with the Browncoat's 'verse in the future to help make this happen. It will be a partnership. No more suprises!
Again, thanks again for every bit of input. I loved doing it and I will be around.
Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
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I’m just curios… I didn’t donate, but did anybody and then got his money back? Or was this just a cheap trick to make the browncoat community 1000 bucks poorer? I hope not!
BUT this won’t stop us! Nobody can stop us, cuz everybody here knows: You can’t stop the signal! We will fight on…
(By the way I really hope you are a honest man and will return the donations… And if you truly want to be a browncoat, you can still do many things that support Firefly…)
Cya all…
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Originally posted by Sziki:
I’m just curios… I didn’t donate, but did anybody and then got his money back? Or was this just a cheap trick to make the browncoat community 1000 bucks poorer? I hope not!
BUT this won’t stop us! Nobody can stop us, cuz everybody here knows: You can’t stop the signal! We will fight on…
(By the way I really hope you are a honest man and will return the donations… And if you truly want to be a browncoat, you can still do many things that support Firefly…)
Cya all…
I did return all the money. If anyone doesn't get their refund, please let me know!
I will be around to help where I can with the cause.
I am saddened by the deep mistrust that I see by some of the people who posted and e-mailed me. However, the great majority of people I had the pleasure of writing to were supportive and had constructive things to say.
If this campaign did not else but stir up enough people to double their own efforts, it was worth it.
Thanks again,
Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com
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