An idea and a website to bring back Firefly!

POSTED BY: browncoatsriseagain
UPDATED: Thursday, March 16, 2006 23:06
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IMPRESSION

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:48 AM

i totally agree....get hakens and gossi to be representatives but also get in touch with universal and fox and anything and anyone else associated with firefly and serenity....send messages out everywhere even outside the browncoat community....go to other countries and other genres of websites....get a message spread

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:11 AM

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Originally posted by BigRedButton:
This is the same bad idea as the Save Enterprise campaign. And it's run by someone equally shadowy. I don't know this guy from Adam and I certainly wouldn't give him any money. If the big dogs in the Firefly community want to get behind this guy after doing their homework on him, I'll be all for it, but not until.

I wouldn't ask you to give any money until you felt it was real.

What made the idea bad for Save Enterprise? Perhaps it was the implementation?

Andrew

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:14 AM

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Originally posted by impression:
i totally agree....get hakens and gossi to be representatives but also get in touch with universal and fox and anything and anyone else associated with firefly and serenity....send messages out everywhere even outside the browncoat community....go to other countries and other genres of websites....get a message spread

If what I am doing causes others to sit up and take action and that action causes more Firefly episodes or a Serenity movie to be made - then I have done what I set out to do.

I am more than willing to be interviewed and background checked by the leaders of the community. I have already offered help to gossi to get the www.serenitymovie.org website back up and running.

Andrew

BIGREDBUTTON

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:21 AM

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Originally posted by browncoatsriseagain:
What made the idea bad for Save Enterprise? Perhaps it was the implementation?

Which, not unlike your own, was suspect. And their campaign, as the LA Times revealed and forced the creator to admit, was run by a convicted felon (demonstrating trustworthyness) who'd previously bankrupted a business (demonstrating ability to handle money) who had also run a toy club where he took people's money and never mailed them what they paid for (demonstrating history of fraud).

At least there, they knew what kind of scum they were dealing with. You, we know nothing about.

~You failed to approach the community ahead of time to pitch the idea.

~You failed to get any support from the MANY Firefly related website out there.

~You're using Paypal for this endeavor, which speaks for itself as just plain stupid.

~Your numbers are fuzzy math at best.

~You have no support from Mutant Enemy or anyone affiliated with the production phases of the show.

~You have no assurances from anyone on the inside at the money end that they'd take your money even if you had it to offer.

~You popped onto the scene for the first time today with a lot of vague answers.

So.... Your implementation is better how again?

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:24 AM

Well we are over the $800 mark and have over 60 people signed up for the newsletter which we are making and will be done with by tomorrow.

We also have had over 30 people "Send this to a friend" with some great comments.

We have been mentioned and linked to via the very popular blog boingboing.net. We are getting into the general blogpsace right now because of it.

We are now on the site list www.browncoats.com

I have contacted several other sites including the podcasts and will hear from them soon.

We are on our way - much faster than anticpated but keeping up.

Thanks again all for both your contributions and your insightful criticisms.

Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by BigRedButton:
Quote:
Originally posted by browncoatsriseagain:
What made the idea bad for Save Enterprise? Perhaps it was the implementation?

Which, not unlike your own, was suspect. And their campaign, as the LA Times revealed and forced the creator to admit, was run by a convicted felon (demonstrating trustworthyness) who'd previously bankrupted a business (demonstrating ability to handle money) who had also run a toy club where he took people's money and never mailed them what they paid for (demonstrating history of fraud).

At least there, they knew what kind of scum they were dealing with. You, we know nothing about.

~You failed to approach the community ahead of time to pitch the idea.

~You failed to get any support from the MANY Firefly related website out there.

~You're using Paypal for this endeavor, which speaks for itself as just plain stupid.

~Your numbers are fuzzy math at best.

~You have no support from Mutant Enemy or anyone affiliated with the production phases of the show.

~You have no assurances from anyone on the inside at the money end that they'd take your money even if you had it to offer.

~You popped onto the scene for the first time today with a lot of vague answers.

So.... Your implementation is better how again?

The idea is out there today for the first time - this is true. I am listening intently to everything that is being said and taking a lot of it into implementation.

If I had brought the idea up without any substance i.e. a website and beginning structure behind it would this dialog be really any different? I doubt it. The time to comment and change is now.

I am willing to put my reputation on the line. If someone that the Firefly community trusts wants to do a background check on me, please contact me.

Paypal is just a beginning as I said. I am paying for all extra expenses out of pocket and am setting up the structures to take on that much more responsibility.

I am new to the Firefly community. Brand newly minted Browncoat - no doubt. I will be around for a long time and am willing to wait to have that trust grow.

Thanks again for all of the attention. I just noticed that Whedonesque has asked about us!

Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

ANONYMOUS1

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by browncoatsriseagain:
I just noticed that Whedonesque has asked about us!

http://whedonesque.com/comments/9282

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We're not going to link to this site until more and firmer details are available. Thanks. SoddingNancyTribe | January 17, 04:39 CET

Whedonesque good place to convince. Joss posts there. Be patient, browncoatsriseagain. It may take a while for that background check.

Or then again maybe the background check will not take that long at all. whedonesque has totally deleted the post mentioning this idea and website.

MISBEHAVIN

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:19 AM

I strongly suggest that all here look very CAREFULLY before contributing any money to this. A whois on the domain name shows it registered to NEW DREAM NETWORK, LLC, which is apparently an internet service provider/registrant. The Better Business Bureau rates New Dream Network LLC an 'F' because they haven't responded to complaints. See http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expositor
y.aspx?CompanyID=13131294

If the answer to this is that New Dream isn't the actual owner of the site then there's still something wrong, because the name of the actual registrant is supposed to be shown in a whois for the integrity of the registry.

The first thing I noticed when visiting the website was that there is no name and no address. As aforementioned, there is no past posting history and no credibility built up. They could have/should have sought to establish some sort of the board of trustees, made up of possibly folks who run the well-established sites like fireflyfans.net. I'm not against any well-intentioned effort to bring back this verse, but this doesn't look right.

SNAP

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:33 AM

While this is a great idea, until Joss stamps something and possibly controls the money. It ain't ever going to happen.

YOMUDDA

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:35 AM

i am all for bringing back this amazing series but i dont think supporting joss with the money will do too well since it would require a hell of alot of money an we couldnt keep supplying him with money to make each episode we'd end up goin broke ourselves itd be easier an better to just show fox how many people support if there is enough people supporting it an fox will be more then happy to fund the show

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