An idea and a website to bring back Firefly!

POSTED BY: browncoatsriseagain
UPDATED: Thursday, March 16, 2006 23:06
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BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 5:54 AM

It's come time to truly misbehave...

www.browncoatsriseagain.com

Let's do something new. Let's show the entertainment industry that we are really serious about this. Let's put our money where our mouth is.

Take a part of the money you would spend on Firefly/Serenity anyway and donate it to our cause. An escrowed account where we can have a very public very large number for the TV/Film industry to salivate over. And then we hand it over to Joss (the best way how is still to be worked out - legal help anyone?) for him to bring back the 'verse anyway he sees fit.

So, let us know what we can do to draw more people and if you are moved, please donate!

Thanks in advance,

Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

FIZZ6KITTY

Monday, January 16, 2006 5:59 AM

I just want to be the first to say thank you for getting this started!

THEONETRUEBIX

Monday, January 16, 2006 6:31 AM

Can't figure out how to track this without posting something to it. So, ignore this.

OIAMSLAIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 6:37 AM

Forgive me for sounding cynical or uninformed, but didn't the show alone cost something like two million dollars an episode to make?

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 6:49 AM

The budget per epiosde is not a known number. It probably fluctuates a lot. "Out of Gas" cost a lot less than "Ariel" or "Trash" or "Heart of Gold" for instance. I did a little more research and did find the $2 million per episode you quoted. I will change the website to indicate that it could be as high as that for some episodes.

I'm certainly not saying that we have to be a sole source for funding although that would be a very nice position to play from.

I am saying that we get enough money into Joss' hands and his leverage becomes much much greater to get anything done and done his way.

There will be cyncism and doubt. I have bouts of it around 2am. The only way to know for sure is to do it. And so, why not give it a shot? Each persons risk is small and the reward is great!

Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

EVERYWORLDSPINNIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 7:12 AM

Ideas such as this have been posted here several times before. The problem is not raising the money, the problem is that Fox owns the broadcast rights to Firefly, and guess what? They ain't sellin.

A while back, someone posted an idea originated from, I believe, New York Magazine where the journalist singled out Firefly as a prime candidate for a sort of subscriber based TV show, that would go straight to DVD. The fans pay for it, and when Mutant Enemy gets enough to produce 16 episodes at X amount per episode, they would make them and release them to the subscribers first, then retail and rental later.

However, the spectre of Fox looms large here. Since no one outside the interested parties has ever seen the contract, we're not sure what "broadcast" covers. Does it cover downloads or DVDs? If it doesn't explicitly say that, then maybe you could do that. However, expect (in the words of Shepherd Book) a hell of a fight from Fox and their mountain of lawyers.

Don't get me wrong, I'd contribute more than the asked for $25.00 in a second, but the battle does not lay in how much it costs to make an episode, but how much will Fox let the rights go for. Maybe that's the angle we should be working. A million fans donate $25.00 a piece, and dangle that in front of Fox to see if they'll take it.

"The last thing I want is that any of our descendents should look back in some years and despise us for not daring to act when we had so much capacity to act. We must dare to seek how, why and on what we agree. We shall thus be able to join together to look for alternative solutions and new ways of managing the world's challenges. Being diverse is our richness, acting together will be our strength". (Federico Mayor; 02-04-01;
UBUNTU Constituent Meeting).

TMURRIE

Monday, January 16, 2006 7:34 AM

Can someone somehow come up with some sort of budget sheet or something? Because my rigid head is somehow having troubles wrapping around the idea that a single episode of Firefly rounded out to above a million bucks!

This is why we lost ya know. We got outnumbered.

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 7:35 AM

That's why we leave it up to Joss. He DOES know how the contract is worded. Us fans aren't asking for a production style in particular.

Also, Fox is going to be lured by the money. Why not make a direct to DVD series where Fox is one of the investors? This isn't a binary proposition - it's a way for the entertainment industry to finally get that we are serious.

I'm sure they are already impressed by the Amazon numbers - however an account with even $1 million in it could get their attention.

I also saw another piece of info on the budget - part of it includes the advertising of the show on the network and other places. It can be a significant bit of the budget (read > $100,000)

Andrew
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

STDOUBT

Monday, January 16, 2006 8:17 AM

Just to play the Devil's Advocate here.

Personally, I feel uncomfortable sending cash
to an unknown entity.
Your nick is new as of your first post here
(today).
Not sayin' ya ain't sincere!
Not sayin' it ain't a good idea!
Just sayin' I don't know ya.

The people many of us know from the webcasts
The Signal and Firefly Talk have an *established
web presence*. It may be that you'd garner more
cred if you hooked up with them somehow.

Anyhoo- I agree with the theory that this is a lull, and we won't be able to see more of the 'verse for
some few years. We're seeing new recruits all the
time, and have already established a 'media cult'.
We can float until our ship comes 'round again.
'Cuz it will.

BROWNCOATSRISEAGAIN

Monday, January 16, 2006 9:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by STDOUBT:
Just to play the Devil's Advocate here.

Personally, I feel uncomfortable sending cash
to an unknown entity.
Your nick is new as of your first post here
(today).
Not sayin' ya ain't sincere!
Not sayin' it ain't a good idea!
Just sayin' I don't know ya.

The people many of us know from the webcasts
The Signal and Firefly Talk have an *established
web presence*. It may be that you'd garner more
cred if you hooked up with them somehow.

Anyhoo- I agree with the theory that this is a lull, and we won't be able to see more of the 'verse for
some few years. We're seeing new recruits all the
time, and have already established a 'media cult'.
We can float until our ship comes 'round again.
'Cuz it will.

Totally understand this feeling. I would feel the same. I am establishing contacts with everyone possible associated with Firefly and Serenity. Please e-mail me directly at firefly@browncoatsriseagain.com if you wish to get a little more information about me before putting your donation in.

If this really does take off as I know it will, I will hire an outside accounting firm (with my own money) to audit the final books . I don't wish for there to be a hint of impropriety.

What I do wish for is a new media economy. One that breaks the current system faster so we can get more good shows for longer than half a season. We will get there. And I prefer to be in the driver's seat instead of yelling from the back seat.

I'm not going to sit back and hope that money comes in. I worked in TV for a long time and know how a report gets on the air. The site will get lots of publicity and quickly.

Donate what you feel is right. It's a Paypal account so your risk is limited. And the payoff is going to be not only getting new episodes in our favorite little 'verse, but to shake up things that need, ummm, shaking up.

Thanks for the feedback! Keep it coming...

Andrew Schultz
www.browncoatsriseagain.com

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