Nitpickers of the verse...UNITE!!
POSTED BY: everyworldspinnin
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 3, 2006 15:08
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Originally posted by StillThereWaiting:
I don't recall this being in the episode as shot, however it would be a clear indicator that Simon did not get her out himself.
No. If Simon left the core planet for Persephone earlier and the resistance group transported River to Persephone later, he still could have had a hand in the escape, it's just that he wasn't around to make sure the group lived up to their part of the deal afterwards.
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Originally posted by thiefjehat:Quote:
We are told...well, somewhere, tha Mal winds up command thousands of folk during the Battle of Serenity Valley. A buck sergeant (in our military) would command a squad--maybe 9 or 10 soldiers. So I'm guessing Mal wasn't a buck sergeant (after all, a Sergeant Major is still a sergeant). I'm guessing Mal was a First Sergeant equivalent, which would have made him the senior enlisted man in a company (120 or so soldiers).
The following assumes US Army military ranks, The army of the Independence could be different.
I've spent some of my time considering Mal's rank in the Independent Army. We know from Zoe that "He was my platoon Sgt."
That would make Mal a Staff Sgt. most likely. Of course Zoe did not specify exactly WHEN Mal was a platoon Sgt. I have a feeling that prior to the Battle of Serenity Valley he was promoted...most likely to Company 1st Sgt.
So the Mal we see in Du Kang was most likely "Staff Sgt Renoylds" And the Mal we see in the pilot episode was "1st Sgt Reynolds"
Now as to why he was listed as a Captain in the film: I think that our writers just screwed up. Yea it could have been a battlefield promotion..but in that case Lt. Renoylds would have made sense.
I honestly think that the Captain title was a slip up. I see this sort of thing all the time from TV and film writers. There is an episode in season 2 smallville when a miltary officer introduces himself as "Lt. so-n-so" and takes off his cover that had Capt bars on it. It happens all the time.
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Well, God; of course it was just a goof. I was offering a theory that would keep the 'verse consistent.
Nit-pickers, indeed.
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Yeah but... sometimes lines that don't make sense are cut. The only lines that matter are the ones that were filmed.
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The inconsistency that bothers me is actually discrepancy between a trailer and the movie. You may all recall the "6 rebels on the run" trailer. From what I saw in the movie there was only one time the crew was in a group of six and they weren't running.
The only other way I can try to rationalize this is some of the crew members don't count as rebels. It still doesn't sit right with me, but Wash could always say, "I was piloting the ship by accident."
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Ok, here's my thoughts on the whole "Captain" thing. In the episode Bushwacked, the Captain of the Alliance ship pulls up Mal's record and he is listed as a Sergeant, and then either he jokes about Mal being a Captain or Mal tells him he's a Captain..I forget which. Anyway.. Mal later in that episode, saves the guy's life. So I figured in addition to letting Mal go he upgraded his Alliance record to Captain as a show of gratitude or respect.
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Kaylee is too cute and harmless to be considered a rebel.
As for the captain thing, maybe Mal was captain of the regimental softball team. :-)
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Originally posted by InsanityLater:
Ok, here's my thoughts on the whole "Captain" thing. In the episode Bushwacked, the Captain of the Alliance ship pulls up Mal's record and he is listed as a Sergeant, and then either he jokes about Mal being a Captain or Mal tells him he's a Captain..I forget which. Anyway.. Mal later in that episode, saves the guy's life. So I figured in addition to letting Mal go he upgraded his Alliance record to Captain as a show of gratitude or respect.
No ruttin' way! If the captain of the Alliance vessel wanted to show gratitude, he'd have let him keep the cargo! I gotta figure that just letting them go was about the furthest he was willing to go. Plus, point of interest, how on earth would that guy have been able to pull that off? Mal wasn't even in the military anymore. As a matter of fact, there wasn't even any Independent military at all anymore. So the captain would have had to pull some kind of scam to get Mal's record change. And how exactly would that benefit Mal?
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More likely, between Bushwhacked and the movie, the Alliance records were updated to reflect the Browncoats' last-minute muster-out promotions.
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Quote:Simple: Inara landed, set her shuttle autopilot to fly well clear, and waited for either Saff or the BDHs to show up.
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Originally posted by Jacqui:
- Another thing that bothers me, it's not really a mistake, but still... in 'Trash', if they were expecting Saffron(yo-saff-bridge-whatever) to double cross them, including Inara for that very purpose, why didn't Kaylee just rig the trash compactor thingie to land somewhere *other* than the planned spot? That way Saffron couldn't have found it, even if she had disabled Serenity.
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I love the episode (Trash), and love the final scene with Inara showing up, but on repeated viewing I have begin to wonder: Where did Inara park? It must of been nearby so she could get to the dumpster and get the booty (without getting even a bit dirty, that's our Inara), but not near enough for YoSaffBridg to see the shuttle from the air and know something's up.
Quote:Simple again. Inara had Saff's shuttle, with its recent flight records. She simply looked up the last waypoint, and met Serenity there.
I have one more: how did they find Mal before he sunburned his privates? I mean, one lil nekked man out in the desert? Not so easy to see! Do you think he was hiding one of those walkie-talkie things somewhere?
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Originally posted by DonCoat:
More likely, between Bushwhacked and the movie, the Alliance records were updated to reflect the Browncoats' last-minute muster-out promotions.
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