Nitpickers of the verse...UNITE!!

POSTED BY: everyworldspinnin
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 3, 2006 15:08
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DONCOAT

Monday, January 2, 2006 6:34 PM

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Originally posted by ebonezer:
Another thing that bothers me about Serenity, is how as Simon is rescuing River and they're in that shaft. The security lazers start at the bottom and light up a step at a time...very slowly. Thats just silly.

I was thinking about this last time I watched it. If there's some technical reason not to activate them all at once, why in the 'verse would you not turn them on from the top down, thereby cutting off a possible escape route?

And just what good are those lasers anyway? Are we supposed to think they're powerful enough to fry an escaping human? That seems a bit extreme, considering the possible value of those escapees... especially when all you'd need to do is close a door or grating over the top of the shaft.

Ah me. Why are we always the most critical of those we love the most?

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

MIMA

Monday, January 2, 2006 6:46 PM

In serenity, during the battle of the reavers/alliance, the operative takes a bitty escape pod. Miraculously, it (crash?)lands exactly where Serenity fell, which was exactly where they needed to be. The operative then finds a secret duct vent directly into mr. universe's lair, avoiding the reavers.

biggest gaping WTF of the movie, but the heartpounding suspense of the reavers and the emotional shock of wash cover it up.

KHYRON

Monday, January 2, 2006 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
The plasma in OMR seems reasonable though. The electrical and em fields would keep the plasma in place, while the high voltage electricity would keep it nice and toasty.

It's a nice idea, but I'm not sure that would be practical, though. If a ship were to fly through some plasma hot enough to fry everybody inside, the plasma would have to be really hot indeed, and the chances are that the hull would be severely damaged in the process, which is something those junkers (for the lack of a better word) would want to avoid, since that's part of what they're after in the first place. If they want to kill everybody inside it would maybe be better to just puncture the hull in a spot that can easily be fixed or repaced later, thereby causing depressurisation inside the vessel.

But, as you said, Citizen, there must be some sort of plasma, otherwise we wouldn't be able to see the electricity in the first place. It's just that I don't think it plays such a big role and the killing of the people inside.

Somebody else mentioned that maybe the hull isn't made up of metal, but of some futuristic composites and if these composites are bad conductors of electricity, then the hull wouldn't act as a Faraday cage. This to me makes a bit more sense, because that would probably also make the ship light enough to make landing on and taking off from planets feasible, so in the Firefly-verse it would be a better alternative to metal hulls. Easier travel would be the up-side of having a hull made from composites - the down-side would be that it allows everybody inside to be fried in an electric net (assuming the materials are non-conducting).

--- Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

DONCOAT

Monday, January 2, 2006 9:10 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Somebody else mentioned that maybe the hull isn't made up of metal...

Story of my life... all my best ideas are credited to "somebody else"...

Speaking of the junkers, there's an interesting point in one of the conversations in the trap control room. One of them claims that the Firefly-class ship isn't worth much as parts, but would still be valuable on the whole.

Strange 'verse, where you make less by "parting out" an old ship than by selling it whole. On Earth-That-Was, that sort of thief always found it more profitable to sell the parts, especially on older models (which were presumably wearing out and in need of repair parts).

Furthermore it's much less risky, as the parts end up scattered all over the place making it hard to trace their origin. But that's not much of an issue out on the raggedy edge, where law enforcement is spotty at best.

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

DONCOAT

Monday, January 2, 2006 9:19 PM

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Originally posted by mima:
In serenity, during the battle of the reavers/alliance, the operative takes a bitty escape pod. Miraculously, it (crash?)lands exactly where Serenity fell, which was exactly where they needed to be. The operative then finds a secret duct vent directly into mr. universe's lair, avoiding the reavers.

Presumably the escape pod had some maneuverability, and the Operative was able to track Serenity (visually or otherwise) and follow it down. Or not: remember that the Op had already been there and knew where Mal was heading.

As for the access duct, Mr. Universe's lair was originally an Alliance communications outpost (see the novelization for details), so the Operative would have had access to plans and could have studied them before the original assault on Mr. U.

Almost anything can be rationalized!

Did anyone else notice the homage to Star Wars in the escape pod scene, with the Operative upside down and sitting in a couch whose back rest was shaped almost exactly like Darth Vader's helmet?

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

KHYRON

Monday, January 2, 2006 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
Story of my life... all my best ideas are credited to "somebody else"...

Lol, sorry Doncoat. I was too lazy to go back and check who it was. I should have known by the subtle brilliance of the idea that it was you...

--- Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

DONCOAT

Monday, January 2, 2006 9:45 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Lol, sorry Doncoat. I was too lazy to go back and check who it was. I should have known by the subtle brilliance of the idea that it was you...

Heheh, no problem. As Wash knows, a little wisecrack is the best revenge -- and you did give me a sweet straight line there...

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

HUMBUG

Monday, January 2, 2006 11:02 PM

Have you noticed in "The Message"?

They're still on the ship and are listening to Tracey's message, Jayne takes off his woolly orange hat,

and the next time the camera points his way, he still has the hat on,

and the time after that it is off again......

It hust bugs me now i've noticed it!!!!!!

Humbug

"She's damaging my calm!" Jayne, Serenity

JERRYT

Tuesday, January 3, 2006 3:08 PM

Ok here's one I haven't seen yet.

In Serenity (the pilot ep.) when the Reavers are chasing them. Kaylee tells Jayne that they need to disable the hydraulics for the port side engine. But when Wash throws the lever to do the crazy Ivan, and they cut to the exterior view, you see the port engine is the one that reverses. Since the hydraulics were not working for the port engine the starboard should have reversed.

Of course it was Jayne that did the work, so he probably got the wrong side.

JerryT
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