Nitpickers of the verse...UNITE!!
POSTED BY: everyworldspinnin
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 3, 2006 15:08
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Originally posted by muffinmanistheskies:
How about Simon, in Firefly, saying that other people got River out of the "Acadamy"...but the in the movie its him saving River
I really don't think that that's an inconsistency, since he could have been telling the crew somewhat less than the whole truth (he didn't know them, after all), or the others did do most of the work in terms of preparation, he just went in and got her out.
How's this for nitpicking: in Ariel, Jayne's complaining that they aren't looking for work. Then Simon comes in and says that they can "stop looking". They weren't looking in the first place, so how can they stop? Trivial, but it always annoys me.
OK i'm sayin he says that he made contacts, with his money, who then told him they could get River out and get her to Persephone where he could pick her up later...if he himself was gonna get her out anyway why would he have to pick her up later in a box on Persephone? he could have just taken her right away and not been seperated so they could freeze her
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I'll be interested to know if you see it, because I've seen the movie a couple of times with friends and pointed it out, and they've agreed with me. It's really quite obvious if you're looking for it, even though the screen isn't shown for very long.
You're right. I just had a look: it's there and it's spelled wrong. Of course, this is the same file that lists Mal as a CAPTAIN of the Independent Army, when he was but a SERGEANT, so... *shrug*. The Operative's sources obviously aren't as good as he thinks they are.
Well, Mal's name IS spelled right on the next screen, so methinks the Operative's sources need a new spellchecker!
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Originally posted by muffinmanistheskies:
OK i'm sayin he says that he made contacts, with his money, who then told him they could get River out and get her to Persephone where he could pick her up later...if he himself was gonna get her out anyway why would he have to pick her up later in a box on Persephone? he could have just taken her right away and not been seperated so they could freeze her
I obviously don't know the details of the plan, but it seems reasonable to assume that Simon and River were split up to make their get-away easier. Simon would have fled to Persephone as quickly as possible, whereas River was frozen and shipped to Persephone at a later time. Had Simon fled from the central planet with a giant box it would've been pretty suspicious.
But to be honest, I don't really care that much. It actually bothered me more that people were making such a big deal out of this, because what's been said in the series isn't exactly the bible. And in the entire series there was about one sentence on River's escape from the academy, so it's annoying to see how many people think they knew for certain that the version in the movie was wrong.
To keep this post topical: this isn't exactly a fault, but it's stupid. In Safe, Mal is busy negotiating with those two guys about the price of the cattle, when Book comes by and asks him if everything's going okay. Why would he come to talk to Mal while Mal was busy negotiating? There's absolutely no reason for it.
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I'll be interested to know if you see it, because I've seen the movie a couple of times with friends and pointed it out, and they've agreed with me. It's really quite obvious if you're looking for it, even though the screen isn't shown for very long.
You're right. I just had a look: it's there and it's spelled wrong. Of course, this is the same file that lists Mal as a CAPTAIN of the Independent Army, when he was but a SERGEANT, so... *shrug*. The Operative's sources obviously aren't as good as he thinks they are.
Well, Mal's name IS spelled right on the next screen, so methinks the Operative's sources need a new spellchecker!
Computer databases, when properly designed, have only one entry for each piece of data. That is, there should be one and only one "First Name" record, which is then used to fill in the appropriate field on any report.
If that name appears correctly spelled in one place and incorrectly spelled in another, that means the database must have (at least) two entries for that data. Either that, or the program somehow dropped a letter when it filled in the first name field on that page.
Either way, we can say the Alliance coders are idiots. Which gives one hope that the big bad Alliance isn't so invulnerable after all
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Could Malcom be the operatives search query - and the later info be what the database pulled up?? It still doesn't solve the CAPTAIN /Independent Army issue.....
(seriously grasping at straws....)
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Originally posted by Jacqui:
- Another thing that bothers me, it's not really a mistake, but still... in 'Trash', if they were expecting Saffron(yo-saff-bridge-whatever) to double cross them, including Inara for that very purpose, why didn't Kaylee just rig the trash compactor thingie to land somewhere *other* than the planned spot? That way Saffron couldn't have found it, even if she had disabled Serenity.
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"Your toes are in the sand."
"And your head's up your..."
"Hey!"
I love the episode (Trash), and love the final scene with Inara showing up, but on repeated viewing I have begin to wonder: Where did Inara park? It must of been nearby so she could get to the dumpster and get the booty (without getting even a bit dirty, that's our Inara), but not near enough for YoSaffBridg to see the shuttle from the air and know something's up.
I agree with Jacqui, it'd be easier to change the spot. But then we wouldn't get to see Inara mocking YSB, and that is a verra satisfying moment.
I have one more: how did they find Mal before he sunburned his privates? I mean, one lil nekked man out in the desert? Not so easy to see! Do you think he was hiding one of those walkie-talkie things somewhere?
Just call me Nitty.
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Well.. it is nitpicking.. because anytime you are dealing with a fictisious piece of work.. you can't possibly close every possible plot hole, etc. Plus some plot holes may be unavoidable to make the story more interesting. As long as there arn't too many or too large of ones.. it doesn't distract from the overall story.. and is tight enought to suspend belief... it's fine by me. But interesting to discuss non the less..
This is one that is on my mind because I saw the final episode (objects in space) last night for the first time. I'm a little depressed about it.. because I now have nothing left to watch (but that's another topic 
) But anyway.. two things that i thought where kind of "overlooked".
1. Early's ship seemed awful small to be able to be by itself in "deep space" which is where they where. How was he able to follow them that far into deep space in such a tiny ship? I guess we will never know. Since they left him to die.. my guess is that he might have had a larger ship that he temporarily left behind to sneak up on Serenity in this smaller craft. A ship which he might have been able to get back to (if he has some type of propulsion on that suit of his).. or radio to come get him.. or something. I don't think this is the last we would have seen of Early had the series continued But if he did have a larger vessle nearby.. wouldn't Mal have realized this?
2. At the end as River is floating back to Serenity.. we see Early's ship sort of "take off". I can only assume they just sent it on some random heading which I can only assume would be AWAY from the direction Early was floating. But we clearly see in other episodes that Mal will salavage anything valuable off of anything that happen to come accross. Why wouldn't they take a perfectly functioning craft with them and pawn it off somewhere? Early wasn't alliance.. so it's not like the alliance would go missing the craft or anything. Plus.. it's not like Mal would be selling it to any "legit" business man anyway. IF they couldn't tow it or if it was too big to fit in the cargo bay.. someone simply could have piloted it to the nearest planet where they might be able to sell it. Why would Mal let money slip through his fingers like that?
Smaug..
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Originally posted by DonCoat:
[If that name appears correctly spelled in one place and incorrectly spelled in another, that means the database must have (at least) two entries for that data. Either that, or the program somehow dropped a letter when it filled in the first name field on that page.
we know the Alliance 'edit' alot of data, what if there are multiple copies of data, and the feilds get filled in more appropriately if you have a higher clearence. Might freak ppl out to know how much the alliace knows about them, so the alliance pilots and privates and whatnot only get shoddy, mistake ridden data, which the operative skimmed over..
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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I have one more: how did they find Mal before he sunburned his privates? I mean, one lil nekked man out in the desert?
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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- And, also, in The Message, Jayne's hat and the straw. Which I didn't even notice until Alan Tudyk pointed it out. Grrr. Now it bothers me.
Yeah, that bugged me a bit at first too, but I don't think it's actually a mistake. When we first see the Jayne hat, it has straw because he just took it out of a box in which it was packed with straw. Then it's clean, right? But when Alan in the commentary mentions that the straw is back in his hat, what was Jayne in the middle of? Looking for "Magical wish granting planks." By that I mean, digging through Tracey's box which was filled with, guess what, Straw. So I think it makes perfect sense that the straw is back, in fact. Now, I could have the timeline off a bit (it's been awhile since I've watched it), but I think Alan made a mistake in the commentary...
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