If you could change 3 things about Buffy season 7
POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 02:26
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The episode Get It Done was on FX today, and it reminded me why I disliked Kennedy so much. She got slapped around by the demon that was exchanged when Buffy went into ShadowPuppetLand. Spike trades blows with it and gets tossed through the ceiling. Yet Kennedy acts like she's more qualified to track the demon down, "We're trained!"
Annoying.
"Be ashamed to die before you have scored some victory for humanity." -- Horace Mann
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1) The writers would not have retroactively pretended Joyce was just the First trying to fool Dawn. Never before or since has the First exterted any physical force on the world, and never before or since has the First been in two places at once. That was NOT the First.
2) Dawn would have been a potential slayer, or at least something like it. Being made out of Buffy would surely have made her something special.
3) The First would have become corporeal at some point, probably as a result of all the potentials becoming slayers. After all, the slayer power is rooted in darkness, and when "the forces of darkness overrun the planet" the First will become corporeal, or something along those lines...
In fact, they really should just have used this alternate script for the finale: http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=731. I'm not sure whether it's authentic or not, but I AM sure that it's definitely superior to the finale we actually got (except for the Xander dying part)...
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Originally posted by fray101:
Agree with pretty much everything said above but to clarify:
1. No potentials (which rules out Kennedy straight away)
2. As mentioned above, Buffy's wish brings Tara back ("look at my new shoes"! - ah, I'd have been in tears if that had happened).
So true. If the Buffy's wish episode had happened, it would have made S7 possibly the strongest Buffy season of all.
Willow + Tara=Love
Willow + Kennedy=(?) Still trying to figure it out. It may have been a lot of things, but none of them were any good.
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Originally posted by OPPYH:
So true. If the Buffy's wish episode had happened, it would have made S7 possibly the strongest Buffy season of all.
One good episode does not a good season make ;)
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I think 'The First's' real plan was to have the potentials become Slayers and end all future slayers. With all Potentials now Slayers when all living slayers die there will be no more Slayers. Then when all the slayers come to help Angel and his crew everyone dies or is sucked into another dimension. All magic and demon energy is taken with it. Angel is the only demon left (or half demon anyway). Spike is still alive and human (thanks to Angel signing the Scroll in his blood.) Nina is human again, as is Oz. Everyone at the fight dies, except Spike and Angel. Spike moves on and eventually dies. Angel and Nina give it a go but he becomes obsessed with trying to find Buffy and the slayers. Eventually he goes crazy. The first just waits for its chance to mess with Angel making him bite a few people making them Vampires. Soon demons are everywhere. The first becomes corporeal. This happens about two hundred years after Buffy's Death. For the first time a new Slayer is awakened her name is Melaka Fray and she is the first potential since the death of Buffy Summers (as you can read in "Fray" The Dark Horse comicbook. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569717516/qid=112653423
4/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5956272-5591324?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) As Firefly tells us "The Earth got used up". It's still there but uninhabitable by humans. So as many humans as posible left earth and the rest died. It is now a demon breeding ground. Hell, just what the first wanted but it's pissed because its suck on earth with the rest of the monsters except for the Reavers of course. So I wouldn't change anything.
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Three things I'd change about Season 7?
Hmmm...
1. Make the First's plan a little bit more coherent. I mean, in the end, it just didn't make any sense. It wanted to destroy the Slayer line...okay, noble enough. But in the finale, it said something like "When my army outnumbers the number of humans on Earth, the scales will tip and I'll be corporeal"? WTF? What kind of wacky nonsense is that? If that was the case, I don't know why Buffy and the Scoobies were so worried; it doesn't seem like there could've been more than a couple hundred thousand Ubervamps in in the cave, but there are BILLIONS of humans on Earth.
2. Don't make Spike's insanity a "throwaway" thing. In the season premiere, I was STOKED to see crazy Spike. "Obviously," I thought to myself, "Spike's soul drove him insane. What a great way to make him different than Angel." Imagine my dissapointment, then, when I discovered that the only reason Spike was crazy was because the First had been torturing him in the basement. I would have much preferred to see Spike regain his sanity over the course of the season - taking him out of the basement would have made him more coherent, sure, but not completely cure him. I think mildly-crazy-Spike-on-the-way-to-recovery would have been much more interesting than what we got, made his soul more important, and made seeing "old" Spike again much more satisfying.
3. A little bit less focus. Some of you may think MORE focus was needed, but I mean in terms of the focus on The First story line. Too many episodes focused exclusively on The First, and they started focusing too early in the season. By the end of the year, we were exhausted by the First and the Potentials...if we had less "First-centric" episodes, we may have had a bit more coherent of a story arc.
Simon: You...you came for us.
Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
-Safe
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With all Potentials now Slayers when all living slayers die there will be no more Slayers.
I would think that eventually, more Potentials would be born and become Slayers. If no more Potentials were born after Buffy's generation, there'd be pretty slim pickins when it came to choosing more Slayers.
The way I understood it was this: sure, Buffy decided to make all Potentials into Slayers, but other than that things continue much the same way: more girls are born with the potential to be Slayers, but the potential is fully realized right away.
Simon: You...you came for us.
Mal: You're on my crew.
Simon: Right. I guess I just didn't...you don't even like me.
Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?
-Safe
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Originally posted by CS:
-Return of Oz! He used to make Buffy so great, and I can just see a great Willow/Oz story- willow's gay but Oz loves her. It's been done before but I know it would have worked great on Buffy, the relationship would have been beautiful.
YES!!! I have wanted the return of Oz since he left. He was such a great character that they could have done so much more with. Or atleast put him on Angel...I would have liked that too.
1. I would have gotten rid of Kennedy. I just could not stand that girl and the only time I even found her slightly entertaining was when she was talking about Willow's Moulin Rouge habits...because I do that too on occasion, before they talked about it on the show.
2. The potentials in general, like everyone else has stated, needed to be tuned down a little. I didn't care for them at all...and I really couldn't buy it. I was bored with the majority of the season because of this.
3. Spike being more Spikeish and not so lovey dovey please stake me as a viewer.
OH...and the whole series finale in genral. To me, it was a let down. BUt thats just my two cents.
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1. Anya...why...why Anya i happened to like Anya kill Xander Willow heck kill Buffy but not Anya!!!
2. Oh Kennedy please leave NOW i think they should have killed Kennedy heck i think she never should have shown up in the first place... actually while i am on the subject i want Oz back!
3. screw the first i want more Caleb! okay thats probably the Firefly fan talking but still I WANT MORE NATHAN FILLION!!!
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Well, first I'd bring back Tara, and not gotten Willow involved with Kennedy.
That relationship to me seemed very forced and hurried to me.
Not killed Anya, and not poked Xander's eye out. (way too disturbing in my opinion).
Toned down the potentials, I mean I know it was the main agenda, but they seemed way too annoying and had too much camera time.
That's it I suppose, only maybe found a way so that the Spike raping Buffy in season 6 never happened so that Buffy could really be free to be in a truly loving relationship with Spike.
I'm a leaf on the wind....Watch how I soar.
Wash: Captain, don't you know kissin' girls makes ya sleepy? Mal: Sometimes I just can't help myself.
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