If you could change 3 things about Buffy season 7
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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 02:26
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Yeah, but she could have done it AS SOON AS Caleb came to town and saved an eye, a favored character and you know who!
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Hey, if she could have....er, the writers would have let her
You got me Chrisisall
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Life on this side o' the water's great thanks - and yourself? Have to say thought chris, I disagree with you about season 7. I like it - -but it's not the best season.
Some of the episodes were brilliant (think conversations with dead people et al) but the overall storyline just didn't have the depth of some of the other seasons - much like with season 4.
My personal fave seasons were season 2 (although spike and dru played a bug part in that) and season 5 (yes- even with dawn and riley). Althought that may just be because of the irrational attachment i feel towards it --it being the first season I ever watched. I have to admit though- Faith made season 3 kick ass!
I would also like to point out that the writers never seem to use the same trick twice. I mean - Buffy + Giles + Willow + Xander, would have worked to kill many of the Big Bad's - not least Caleb, but it seems like once they used it on Adam - they couldn't do it again because that wouldn't make good TV. Or i could just be being annoying.
I'm a quitter. I come form a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all.
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Objectivly speaking, I guess 3 is the best overall, but I love 7 because Buffy's taking charge, and it has Faith in the last 5 eps, and she's a total good guy here. Also Chosen rocks. Overall, it's kinda a mess, but the highlights were high.
Later boo.
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Quote:I’m glad you liked S7. It’s good to know that some value came from them.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
This thread, and your dislike of 6 & 7 in particular, Finn, is what made me put off seeing them for so long. Maybe I was just prepared, but seven is equal to 3 for me now, not in overall quality, of course, but in the high points. Chosen and OMWF are my two favourite episodes.
Dark works for the Buffster Chrisisall
Truthfully though, it was the discontinuity that put me off. One of the major points of being the slayer was that short lifespan. It was part of the dramatic suspense that lent some degree of gravity to what would be an otherwise frivolous storyline. The movie was a flop because it merely played parody with different stereotypes – the ditzy blonde and the superhero. But with a tv show Joss was able to expound on this contrast of stereotypes and show us a superhero who was a ditzy blonde. Buffy was, in every way, a traditional superhero with supernatural powers charged with saving the world, yet unlike Superman, her weakness wasn’t some abstract “kryptonite,” but merely that she was human, and suffered from the same heartaches, confusion and mortality that we all suffer. That was the shtick that made Buffy work. Buffy wasn’t just a superhero; she was a metaphor for life.
And of course for a couple of times she “died” for dramatic effect, not something most real people do, but okay we all knew that it was for dramatic effect. But at the end of S5 Buffy died for real. And that was only way the show could have ended. That was the fate of all slayers. It is the fate of all life in general. Bring Buffy back in Season 6 destroyed the very thing that made Buffy work. I could no longer believe that Buffy was real, because now she was just an immortal superhero like all the rest.
It’s not that S6&7 were bad, in fact, S6 had some of the most mature writing of the whole show, and probably would have been great season had I been able to take any of it seriously. But the whole point of S6 was to recreate the feeling of “realness” after having destroyed it, and I don’t think they ever did. And then S7 completely distorted the whole idea and instead took Buffy in the direction of some sort of crazy Hollywood ending that was completely out of sync with what Buffy was all about. I think they should have stopped while there were ahead. Taken by themselves S6&7 were probably very good, but taken as a whole, they created an unfortunate discontinuity.
That's just my take on it. I think many people probably disagree.
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Yeah, but she could have done it AS SOON AS Caleb came to town and saved an eye, a favored character and you know who!
didn't she have to have the scythe to 'channel the power' for it? and she only got that near the end.
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Quote:Good points all around, and I see where you're coming from, I was almost there myself. But Buffy's struggle in S6 worked for me.And in 7, I like the idea of taking the rules- the sacred and only ways accepted down through the millenia- and saying "F**k 'em!!!"
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
But at the end of S5 Buffy died for real. And that was only way the show could have ended. That was the fate of all slayers. It is the fate of all life in general.
She found a way to change what couldn't be changed.
She did the impossible.
Now you see exactly why I like Buffy S7 AND Serenity
Chrisisall
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Quote:Charlie, you're priceless!!!
Originally posted by charliethebloody:
didn't she have to have the scythe to 'channel the power' for it? and she only got that near the end.
Chrisisall
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Quote:You have a stronger tolerance for the big picture direction then I do, or maybe you focus on local details like individual episodes, instead of the major plot arcs. If a season breaks character with the show I’m very quickly offended. Like DA.S2. Although I think the Buffy.S6 was miles better then DA.S2, which was full of crazy clichés, it really wasn’t the cheesy episodes with their transgen of the month that bothered me but how DA.S2 never seemed to fit with the original premise of the show.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Good points all around, and I see where you're coming from, I was almost there myself. But Buffy's struggle in S6 worked for me.And in 7, I like the idea of taking the rules- the sacred and only ways accepted down through the millenia- and saying "F**k 'em!!!"
She found a way to change what couldn't be changed.
She did the impossible.
Now you see exactly why I like Buffy S7 AND Serenity
I probably get a lot more enjoyment out of these shows if I were more like you.
Also you're being punk'd by whatever site hosts these images you're posting.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
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I do a lot of attention deficit and hyper-focus as the lack of continuity or uneven quality demands. DA,S2 requires me to HF on Max and Logan to enjoy, and sometimes even just get through parts (Gossamer? What's a Gossimer?) I can pick apart almost literally ANY SF movie you can name, to the point that I might hate it, without even trying too hard, so I don't try. I just look to see if the enjoyable or meaningful parts warrant my AD or HF to make it worthwile. For instance, Firestarter really isn't a great movie, but if I HF on the parts that successfully bring scenes from the book alive, I have a great time watching it.
Quote:What means 'punk'd'?
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Also you're being punk'd by whatever site hosts these images you're posting.
Chrisisall
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