So where is the opposition to Bush anyway ?
POSTED BY: GinoBiffaroni
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 02:11
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/national/nationalspecial/11response.
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... an initial examination of Katrina's aftermath demonstrates the extent to which the federal government failed to fulfill the pledge it made after the Sept. 11 attacks to face domestic threats as a unified, seamless force.
Federal Emergency Management Agency officials expected the state and city to direct their own efforts and ask for help as needed. Leaders in Louisiana and New Orleans, though, were so overwhelmed by the scale of the storm that they were not only unable to manage the crisis, but they were not always exactly sure what they needed. While local officials assumed that Washington would provide rapid and considerable aid, federal officials, weighing legalities and logistics, proceeded at a deliberate pace.
FEMA appears to have underestimated the storm, despite an extraordinary warning from the National Hurricane Center that it could cause "human suffering incredible by modern standards." The agency dispatched only 7 of its 28 urban search and rescue teams to the area before the storm hit and sent no workers at all into New Orleans until after Katrina passed on Monday, Aug. 29.
On Tuesday, a FEMA official who had just flown over the ravaged city by helicopter seemed to have trouble conveying to his bosses the degree of destruction, according to a New Orleans city councilwoman.
"He got on the phone to Washington, and I heard him say, 'You've got to understand how serious this is, and this is not what they're telling me, this is what I saw myself,' " the councilwoman, Cynthia Hedge-Morrell, recalled.
State and federal officials had spent two years working on a disaster plan to prepare for a massive storm, but it was incomplete and had failed to deal with two issues that proved most critical: transporting evacuees and imposing law and order.
The Louisiana National Guard, already stretched by the deployment of more than 3,000 troops to Iraq, was hampered when its New Orleans barracks flooded.
Partly because of the shortage of troops, violence raged inside the New Orleans convention center, which interviews show was even worse than previously described. Police SWAT team members found themselves plunging into the darkness, guided by the muzzle flashes of thugs' handguns, said Capt. Jeffrey Winn.
Oliver Thomas, the New Orleans City Council president, expressed a view shared by many in city and state government: that a national disaster requires a national response.
Richard A. Falkenrath, a former homeland security adviser in the Bush White House, said the chief federal failure was not anticipating that the city and state would be so compromised. He said the response exposed "false advertising" about how the government has been transformed four years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
"Frankly, I wasn't surprised that it went the way it did," Mr. Falkenrath said.
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Meanwhile, according to NBC Nightly news "FEMA's portable housing remains hundreds of miles away unused."
If this doesn't piss you off, you're not rational.
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Originally posted by rue:
Meanwhile, according to NBC Nightly news "FEMA's portable housing remains hundreds of miles away unused."
If this doesn't piss you off, you're not rational.
FEMA's portable housing is conventional three bedroom mobile homes. To effectively use these, you need a site with water, electric, sewer, and maybe natural gas. They aren't used for first-response housing, but to help folks who can't find a permanent residence during the recovery period. There are about 500 in Florida still inhabited by people left homeless by Hurricane Charlie last year.
If they don't have them deployed in another month, maybe I'll be pissed off then...but less than two weeks after the storm, while bodies are still being recovered? I don't think so.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Ruxton:
GEEZER, it seems it was at least partly the FEDS who tried to block news coverage of dead recovery:
"U.S. District Judge Keith Ellison issued a temporary restraining order against a "zero access" policy announced earlier Friday by Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, who is overseeing the federal relief effort in the city, and Terry Ebbert, the city's homeland security director."
Isn't that what (sort of)I said?
"It was the New Orleans authorities who asked for a ban on pictures of the dead, not Reagan or the Bushes. The Federal involvement was to implement that request."
You see it as a coverup, I see it as trying to respect the dead (as stated by Mr. Ebbert in the article quoted by SignyM).
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Thank you Geezer for your wisdom in setting an appropriate timetable for emergency housing. It's so clear to me now - you are the ultimate authority to whom we should all defer. 
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I don't like facts to get buried under Geezer's decoys, so here they are again:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/national/nationalspecial/11response.
html?hp&ex=1126411200&en=cd7ee70e1622076b&ei=5094&partner=homepage
... an initial examination of Katrina's aftermath demonstrates the extent to which the federal government failed to fulfill the pledge it made after the Sept. 11 attacks to face domestic threats as a unified, seamless force.
Federal Emergency Management Agency officials expected the state and city to direct their own efforts and ask for help as needed. Leaders in Louisiana and New Orleans, though, were so overwhelmed by the scale of the storm that they were not only unable to manage the crisis, but they were not always exactly sure what they needed. While local officials assumed that Washington would provide rapid and considerable aid, federal officials, weighing legalities and logistics, proceeded at a deliberate pace.
FEMA appears to have underestimated the storm, despite an extraordinary warning from the National Hurricane Center that it could cause "human suffering incredible by modern standards." The agency dispatched only 7 of its 28 urban search and rescue teams to the area before the storm hit and sent no workers at all into New Orleans until after Katrina passed on Monday, Aug. 29.
On Tuesday, a FEMA official who had just flown over the ravaged city by helicopter seemed to have trouble conveying to his bosses the degree of destruction, according to a New Orleans city councilwoman.
"He got on the phone to Washington, and I heard him say, 'You've got to understand how serious this is, and this is not what they're telling me, this is what I saw myself,' " the councilwoman, Cynthia Hedge-Morrell, recalled.
State and federal officials had spent two years working on a disaster plan to prepare for a massive storm, but it was incomplete and had failed to deal with two issues that proved most critical: transporting evacuees and imposing law and order.
The Louisiana National Guard, already stretched by the deployment of more than 3,000 troops to Iraq, was hampered when its New Orleans barracks flooded.
Partly because of the shortage of troops, violence raged inside the New Orleans convention center, which interviews show was even worse than previously described. Police SWAT team members found themselves plunging into the darkness, guided by the muzzle flashes of thugs' handguns, said Capt. Jeffrey Winn.
Oliver Thomas, the New Orleans City Council president, expressed a view shared by many in city and state government: that A NATIONAL DISASTER REQUIRES A NATIONAL RESPONSE.
Richard A. Falkenrath, a former homeland security adviser in the Bush White House, said the chief federal failure was not anticipating that the city and state would be so compromised. He said the response exposed "false advertising" about how the government has been transformed four years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
"Frankly, I wasn't surprised that it went the way it did," Mr. Falkenrath said.
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Lynch
You are getting more desperate as the crowd around you silently melts away ...
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates International.
Sept. 8-9, 2005. "Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"
Approve 38
Disapprove 55
Unsure 7
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Quote:Lynch, you opened the door. I made no personal comments about you, I cited facts. So now, see the signature below: PLEASE DON'T THINK THEY GIVE A SHIT.
"I think you need to adjust your meds and fix your tin foil hat too."
That means YOU - callous, opportunistic and partisan beyond excuse. Able to rationalize the death of thousands in defense of an ideology. Just like your masters. Which you pathetically call "Doing the right thing".
I'm looking forward to the day when you will be called to an account.
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So, let's hear it AJ, and let's start out with the first question:
Explain to me how the unecessary death of thousands is acceptable.
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Originally posted by rue:
Thank you Geezer for your wisdom in setting an appropriate timetable for emergency housing. It's so clear to me now - you are the ultimate authority to whom we should all defer.
Just trying to apply a little logic, like the fact that mobile homes aren't worth much without the infrastructure to support them. That has to be put in place before it does any good to move the emergency housing in. Since the New Orleans area is still mostly under water, It seems silly to drop mobile homes in and watch them float away.
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