Fray

POSTED BY: Zicsoft
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 05:28
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ZICSOFT

Sunday, June 16, 2002 9:55 PM

Uh, I don't think the marketing is what's wrong with Fray. The problem is that you can't bloody buy the damned books. They haven't even published all 8 issues yet, and already the second printing of issue #1 is out of print. (Even if the stores don't stock them, you can always get current DHs from tfaw.com.) As I said before, I think DH sells them to be collected, not read.

And yeah, the art's really good too.

I made the mistake of buying one of those gawdawful Fassbender Buffys. He has her reading Fray. But I can't imagine Whedon using that gimmick. I mean, one slayer reading about another that hasn't been born yet?

NOVAGRASS

Sunday, June 16, 2002 10:28 PM

Jonwes: I very much enjoy Supergirl, too. About all I read nowadays are Supergirl (the best Superfamily title), Batgirl (the best Batfamily title), JLA (writing is the best it's been in a long time), New X-Men, and (of course) Fray.

Zicsoft: *yuck* A Fassbender Buffy comic?! That's almost as bad as reading a Golden or Holder Buffy comic. *vomits at the thought*

NOFETSUR: How can Xander read something that he's technically a part of? That would be like me reading a comic book telling the story of my great grandson. Fray, as far as I know, is canonical... there's no way Xander could read it.

--Dylan Palmer, aka NoVaGrAsS--

"Nice guys can only get so mad." Fillion on Mal

ZICSOFT

Monday, June 17, 2002 2:08 AM

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Originally posted by Novagrass:
Zicsoft: *yuck* A Fassbender Buffy comic?! That's almost as bad as reading a Golden or Holder Buffy comic. *vomits at the thought*

Don't be rude. Besides, there's a perfectly good

icon.

I actually think Golden is a pretty good writer. He's just about the only writer outside of Whedon's own team that has any feeling for the characters. Not that I'm a fan -- he's one of those blood-loving horror writers who takes the genre *so* seriously. His Buffy tie-ins are well-written, but lacking any of the irony or humor of the show itself.

JOCE

Monday, June 17, 2002 2:57 AM

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His Buffy tie-ins are well-written, but lacking any of the irony or humor of the show itself.

I have to agree there. I have read Christopher Golden's original series The Shadow Saga and liked it much more than his Buffy stuff.

As for Fray, I love it!! It's well-written, well-drawn and full of Joss's great twists and turns. I've got all the ones that have thus far been released, and can't wait for #7 and #8. The only thing that irritates me is that they're taking so long to come out. I mean, the first one was released almost a year ago!

-- Joce :)

MOJOECA

Monday, June 17, 2002 4:00 AM

I have read just two Buffy novels. My first was Golden's Spike and Dru: Pretty Maids All in a Row. Having come off a streak of reading classic works, the weakness of the writing was palpable. But I still liked it; it was a good story. Then I tried out Nancy Holder's The Book of Fours. The book was a streaming pile. Terrible. I haven't read another Buffy novel since.

--- Joe

VOIDPRIME

Monday, June 17, 2002 4:31 AM

I read Fray so far and liked it. As for good comics, check out American century from DC/Vertigo and Paul Pope's new mini-series from DC/Vertigo, 100%, due this month. Paul pope has to be one of the best new comic book artists in years. And Grant Morrison's New X-Men is great. the new Doom Patrol series is weird. I like reading Neon Genesis Evangelion from Viz Comics (and need to check out the anime of it on VHS or DVD). Have a better one.

Be Seeing You,
David Blackwell

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ZICSOFT

Monday, June 17, 2002 2:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mojoeca:
I have read just two Buffy novels. My first was Golden's Spike and Dru: Pretty Maids All in a Row. Having come off a streak of reading classic works, the weakness of the writing was palpable. But I still liked it; it was a good story. Then I tried out Nancy Holder's The Book of Fours. The book was a streaming pile. Terrible. I haven't read another Buffy novel since.

Well, I don't think you can judge genre fiction by comparing it against "literature". Different conventions, standards, goals. And I think Golden is a pretty good genre writer. As I said before, I think he does a good job of capturing the Buffy characters. I'd be a fan, except he only writes grim, humorless horror, which bores me.

MARINO

Monday, June 17, 2002 5:25 PM

I regularly read about twenty comics a week, every week, year 'round. Which is a lot, ask anybody. I'm a serious and sad addict to comics.

FRAY, from the beginning and up to now, has ruled. It amazes me how well Joss adapted his style of storytelling in order to write a comic book. The dialogue, the action, the timing - it's all good.

Sure, he's a bit late on deadlines, but that's forgiven for something that's actually this good. So yeah, check it out, people. Trades will be coming out by the end of the year, I'm sure.

And while you're buying that, pick up a BARRY WEEN trade or two. That book's seriously demented and hilarious.

HJERMSTED

Monday, June 17, 2002 7:22 PM

Being a long time reader of the Love and Rockets comic books, I am accustomed to long waits between issues. The Hernandez Bros. always make the wait worthwhile when the issue finally hits the stands.

It appears Mr. Whedon is following in that tradition with Fray. A new issue is always worht the wait. I am enjoying this series immensely and plan on picking up the trade paperback collection of Fray when it comes out. That way my friends and I can stop reading my collectors item copies!

How many of you Fray fans also picked up the Angel comic series that Joss co-wrote?

mattro

ZICSOFT

Monday, June 17, 2002 9:16 PM

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Originally posted by MarinO:
I regularly read about twenty comics a week, every week, year 'round. Which is a lot, ask anybody. I'm a serious and sad addict to comics.

I wouldn't call that "addiction". I mean, comics don't exactly take forever to read. And if you take longer because you stop to enjoy the pretty pictures, well that counts as appreciating art.

Question is, do you buy them all yourself, or do you trade with friends? That's a big expense. Or are other labels cheaper than DH?

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