MAJOR SPOILERS, but I had to say something....
POSTED BY: bassgravi
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 09:11
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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
There are actually quite a few fans trying to tell Joss how to do it, both on this site and the 'Versal board. Blatantly saying he was wrong, telling him how he could change it with just a few re-shot scenes (because apparently these people are well versed in film making and have the cash to shell out for it), starting a "Save Wash" campaign, even trying to mount some sort of active boycott of the movie so they can ruin it for everyone else, etc. etc.
I missed out on the "Save Wash" boycott madness and mayhem thing or I wouldn't have been so demon-with-fangs-ish...
I agree with you on the people saying to change the movie thing, though...that's a bit...pretentious...(or however you spell it...)
Maybe if I made movies, had tons of money and some extra film, cast, and crew laying around I'd suggest he change it too, but neither of those things is ever going to happen to me and certainly not anytime soon so alls I can say is "I want my Wash, pleeeeease?"
I think I'm going to go find my cuddly blanket of doom and have dreams of Wash (in the non-be-in-my-bunk-sense...seriously...I mean it...sheesh...heathens...)
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Originally posted by CruelIrony
And how do you get a picture with your name?
When you're on the home page there should be a thing up top with many yellow links and one should say 'My Firefly' from there on the side is a little thing that says 'Edit My Profile', etc. (or something to that effect) and you should be able to find a pic.
At least....I think that's how I did it...and I think there's a way to get a custom made pic, but I haven't explored that yet.
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Wow.... where do I begin?
A long time ago I posted on this board my personal experiences with Alan Tudyk. Long story short, I spent around 5 years in a comedy troupe with him here in Dallas called Rubber Chicken. Alan was certainly the best actor in the troupe and on a personal level is a really, really good human being and one damned funny person. I felt that I (used to???) know him and I'm pretty sure if we bumped into each other at the airport he'd remember my name. (Please know that I'm not trying to brag here, I'm trying to explain my context for the next remarks).
When Wash died I felt like a friend had died. The rest of the movie just seemed really dark and somber. As I left the theatre I challenged myself mentally with something along the lines of "Come on, you didn't want Wash to die because you wanted your former friend to stay in the series" or "you're mixing the movie with personal feelings etc."
Well, I've had 3 or 4 days to mull it over in my mind and I scared. I'm scared FOR Serenity as something that I really enjoy as a fan and _really_ want to succeed in the marketplace (cuz then we get MORE Serenity right?).
I'm scared that Joss has made a gritty, honest, daring and awesome movie that won't turn on fans the way that most of us have become such loyal browncoats because average moviegoers (and god help us, movie critics) will feel the same kind of resentment over this Wash issue. In short, I'm concerned that killing Wash is a little TOO over the top in terms of making us 'feel the reality' or 'feel the danger' to allow the movie to succeed as much as we all know it should.
What's weird for me is that for the last 6 months I've been predicting that Wash would be killed for some of the same reasons that others have more eliquently expressed here. Specifically, it makes the relationship between Mal and Zoe the stuff of legends and will challenge (torture?) Mal even more. Its one thing when anonymous soldiers under your command die, but he killed off the husband of Zoe gorramit. That's different. Boatloads of future story potential there.
Part of me understands this stuff intellectually but I feel like the Firefly I've grown to love has changed into something a little TOO dark and too macabre for my tastes. If Joss goes there, its his vision and he's WAAAAAAAYYYYYYY smarter about story telling that I can ever hope to be. I have to say in all honesty though (and I expect to be eaten by reavers for saying it out loud) but this wasn't the way I wanted my BDH to end their movie. If I choose not to go there emotionally its not because the story is wrong.... its because I would have _prefered_ it to be different.
I didn't want a HappyHappyJoyJoy ending... but I didn't want Wash to die either.
Anyway, I've now spent 30 minutes writing an re-writing this post trying to be rationale and convincing without become maudalin.
There are a couple of other points that I have about the movie plot but I'll make them in another thread.
Hats off to Joss, Chris, all the folks at Mutant Enemy and our Big Damn Heros.
And Alan, you will most certainly be missed.
Now, how's about we get on with this increasingly eerie-ass day
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I think that one of the things that made these events so hard to take is the context from which we are watching the movie. We have had three years to replay fourteen episodes during which nothing drastic has changed. Suddenly, we get our long awaited BDM, and we find our characters already somewhere else in the story, in a medium that cannot afford to take the small quiet moments that make the series so soulful, and are faced with fundemental and traumatic changes.
From our perspective Firefly was the story. But for Joss, the Firefly he got to produce was the set up for the story. He was able to define the 'verse, develop the characters a bit, and even set up some story arcs, but we all know that F*x cut him off at the knees. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't have the endless possibilities and directions for the show to go, and have the story told.
I, for one, am looking to the comic books to help ease some of that transition. I am looking to sequels to ease some of the loss. And, I am looking to Joss with admiration for sticking with his vision. As Mal says to River of keeping the ship flying - you need to love it. Joss does.
A common piece of advice about storytelling advises showing what happens, rather than telling. Joss has taken that a step further. Rather than showing us the pain and loss the characters are experiencing, he has managed to allow us to experience that loss, that pain. In most movies we feel bad for the characters. In Serenity we feel bad with the characters. It transcends entertainment; it is art.
Serenity is not an easy movie. But as I get further removed from the emotions of the loss, I am more and more convinced that it was a great movie.
Maybe just a good movie.
Well, it was okay. 
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Ain't. We. Just.
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I fully believe the emotion of all of these moments will change dramatically when the final score is added to the film. Music changes EVERYTHING.
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