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MAJOR SPOILERS, but I had to say something....

POSTED BY: bassgravi
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 09:11
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Friday, June 24, 2005 3:38 PM

Having not seen the movie but read all the spoilers may I suggest an alternative explanation for why what was done, was done?
Did anyone consider the thespian in question possibly didn't want to be an on going part of the franchise? Joss merely integrated it into the story.

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Friday, June 24, 2005 3:42 PM

Yeah, for a brief moment in time I had considered if I should consider myself a "Joss fan" - but when I had that, that sealed it: I'm not, and never will be.

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Friday, June 24, 2005 3:44 PM

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Originally posted by BlackDove:

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Zoe in particular showed almost no emotion whatsoever that her husband of the last several years was now gone forever. She was cold in a robotic sense.





Must disagree.

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Her character is an experienced soldier, and she was still trying to unpin a clearly-dead man from his chair until Mal pulled her off. Then she kicked into warrior mode ("you ever been with a warrior woman?"). To me, one of the best issues left hanging is how she deals with Mal, and the inevitable conflict/blamegame they're going to have (ala the complex relationship between the three in the torture episode). I hated losing Wash too--just went to my second preview and was fervently hoping they'd change that part, but alas they did not--but I'm sure Joss will use the death to make the Whedonverse deeper and more complex.



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Friday, June 24, 2005 4:42 PM

I've got a theory...

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I know it's far fetched not even remotely true but I'm using this as a balm for my poor battered heart. We all know how Joss hates spoilers, right? Well what would be the ultimate revenge? I'm thinking it would be having a traumatic event such as Wash’s death and then having it NOT be in the final version. Ha-Ha take that! I imagine him saying. Oh well, I know this is just denial speaking. I do think I wouldn't have such a problem with it if we saw just a little more of Zoe being effected. Her panic was great but I think there should have been just a little more of a struggle with Mal and then she clicks into warrior mode. I don’t think she should break down after that because she is a warrior and she is strong. Overall it was such a kick ass movie!! I was proud of Joss he did such a good job!



A swhat?

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Friday, June 24, 2005 4:58 PM

There's one thing that really saddens me...

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that being the fact that Alan won't be participating in the next movie(s) - the family aspect of Serenity's crew was one of the best parts of the show, but what really made that the case was that you could feel it was true of the actors as well. And I just don't like the idea of everyone making another movie and Alan not being there. Ron as well, but Alan was so integral that his absense (perhaps more than his character's) would realy depress me.

Perhaps in flashbacks - more Alan with a mustache!!



"Be ashamed to die before you have scored some victory for humanity." -- Horace Mann

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Friday, June 24, 2005 7:44 PM


Have to disagree about..

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Zoe being un-emotional - Her pulling at Wash saying "Baby we have to go" .... her voice sounds so desperate. Later Kaylee asks "What about Wash?" beat of silence "Wash ain't coming" and Zoe doesn't look up.

right there - Zoe who can face anything - any horror - can't look at her family as she tell them Wash is gone. My heart broke for her.

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Friday, June 24, 2005 8:15 PM

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I feel like I want to send out sympathy cards out to the cast, and especially to Alan. I am devastated that Wash is dead. I was so upset that my two favourite characters were both killed in the same movie! It's just too much. I don't want it to be real. And seeing Simon and Kaylee finally get together was not enough to make up for losing Wash. I agree with whoever said that the family is broken and it makes me wonder how the dynamics will be in the next movies. (Zoe better be pregnant in the sequel!!!) This is why I love/hate Joss. He gives you something wonderful, and then he snatches it away, but he does it in this completely genius, unexpected way. See? I'm too upset to be coherent. I could use a hug.



"Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us." ~Jerry Garcia

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Friday, June 24, 2005 8:19 PM

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Originally posted by Opus:
Having not seen the movie but read all the spoilers may I suggest an alternative explanation for why what was done, was done?
Did anyone consider the thespian in question possibly didn't want to be an on going part of the franchise? Joss merely integrated it into the story.



The actor in question did not ask to be written out. In fact, when everyone read their scripts, they were all wondering how the actor was going to take it, and no one wanted to call them.

This is from the various remarks made at the 5/5 and 5/23 screenings. (Including the actor in question)

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Friday, June 24, 2005 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by MikeyMo:
There's one thing that really saddens me...

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that being the fact that Alan won't be participating in the next movie(s) - the family aspect of Serenity's crew was one of the best parts of the show, but what really made that the case was that you could feel it was true of the actors as well. And I just don't like the idea of everyone making another movie and Alan not being there. Ron as well, but Alan was so integral that his absense (perhaps more than his character's) would realy depress me.

Perhaps in flashbacks - more Alan with a mustache!!




Well as one actor said:

Prequel, flashback, hologram

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Friday, June 24, 2005 8:29 PM

SERENITY is NOT a book note to the verse.

It is the first attempt to start a trilogy of films, for one thing.

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