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MAJOR SPOILERS, but I had to say something....

POSTED BY: bassgravi
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 09:11
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BASSGRAVI

Friday, June 24, 2005 6:14 AM

Ok...if perhaps you managed to miss the spoilers part, here's your warning: I will ruin the entire movie for you if you read this one thing....
If you've seen the screening, you're safe. If not, then just don't read the rest. Really, just don't. Don't do it. It won't be fun.
In fact, you'll have to highlight the text(if I do it right...), just in case you didn't figure out until just now that I'm going to talk about the screening!!!
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Book, I understand...really, I do, I don't like it, but I get it.
But WASH?!?!? I get the how I just don't get the why. WTF!?! Without Wash the movie becomes very, very not happy. Zoe's little slinky dress escapade doesn't make up for it, either. Not at all. I'd lose the dress, and keep the husband. It's not fair, it's not cool, it makes the movie sad, it happens at a very bad moment...or a good moment that is made bad by Wash's demise, and *it doesn't make any sense*. At least not to me. I cried. Not gonna lie to you folks...I got in line about four and a half hours early, I sang Happy Birthday to Joss and signed a banner, I sang the Ballad of Serenity, I sang the Hero of Canton thing, and even did it on tape, I dressed up like Kaylee and had my picture taken with two other Kaylees...and the movie was great, but that one thing....just now right. Nope. No excuses...it was just wrong. It was beyond morbid and creepifying and just plain, flat-out wrong. I kept hoping that there would be some miraculous recovery, I mean, it looked like everyone else was going to bite it towards the end anyway...but when the movie was over and we realized there were no end credits...I just sat there with the bf and cried...'cause of Wash. It's not right, I tell you. I'd be angry if I wasn't all sad....

SERGEANTX

Friday, June 24, 2005 6:42 AM

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But you all but explained to yourself the 'why' of it. You thought that all them might just get it after Wash went. That's why. Especially for those of us who've seen all the episodes several times. We've come to think of them as static.

Offing Book was expected. We all had a feeling someone was going to get it and that let us off the hook. I didn't see the Wash thing coming and it completely kept me on edge for the last part of the movie. It made me believe that Simon was going to get it too.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

Friday, June 24, 2005 7:31 AM

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Because someone had to or the jeopardy is meaningless. Because awful, meaningless things happen in war and we lose the ones we love. Because we loved him and, to quote another SF franchise, this time we have paid for the party with our dearest blood.

I am with you that I almost couldn't enjoy the third act after that; it just overwhelmed me for the rest of the movie. But, well I won't say it hurts less now, or that it's less shocking, but I know why it had to happen.

The first death was a sacrifice which moved the plot forward. The second was to show us that, much as we love these people, any one of them could die and the danger is real. And that, no matter what happens to you, you can keep flying.

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DRAGONFLYDIRECTOR

Friday, June 24, 2005 7:36 AM

And that, no matter what happens to you, you can keep flying.

Amen, Brother BaggyTrousers...

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RIVERBIRCH

Friday, June 24, 2005 10:41 AM

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I'm still very upset about Wash as well. I would have prefered that Simon died instead. We never did even learn who Book really was, either.

riverbirch

RIVERBIRCH

Friday, June 24, 2005 10:44 AM

Also I'm a little curious as to why they did not bring in 'two by two hands of blue' cause that was rockin in the tv show.

riverbirch

AMYEL

Friday, June 24, 2005 11:35 AM

What I got from it was that Book was an operative. He lost his faith in the Alliance (like The Op did at the end) and found religion.

RANGRBOB

Friday, June 24, 2005 12:09 PM

This was a big thing for many people, some have turned their backs on Firefly and Joss for it. It took me the better part of a week to come to terms with the loss. I didn't even go to any of the fan sites for a couple days. I understand the loss now and why it was writen into the movie, and I have to agree it did its job. I will never get over it but I do understand.

SPARTAN

Friday, June 24, 2005 12:18 PM

I m with you all on this subject, it startled me to no end, but if you watch any other Joss show ( Angel, Buffy) you will find that what Joss did was what he normally does- the unexpected. Its his style, and while it may not be the most applauded ( I saw several girls after the end cursing his name ) It's his style and he ALWAYS redeems himself later on, fear not browncoats, the best is yet to come

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FLYINFREE

Friday, June 24, 2005 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Spartan:
fear not browncoats, the best is yet to come

I wish I could believe that but everything about the movie to me screams THE END. The deaths of 2 main characters, every plot and storyline wrapped up, everything explained (with the exception of Book but with his death becomes meaningless). I waited and prayed and obsessed about the idea of a Firefly movie with the hope that it would bring back the only show I ever loved. I went to the screening needing to come out with a sense of excitement and hope for the future of Firefly and all I felt was empty. Don't confuse my intent here, Serenity was probably the greatest piece of film-making I will ever see. I have never been so moved and enthralled in my life. But all I felt after it was over was lost and empty. Even now, the next day, I'm just wandering around in a haze of depression. My family is gone and they left in a blaze of glory.

"...we're still flyin'."
"That's not much."
"It's enough." Malcolm Reynolds and Simon Tam - Serenity