How does Buffy rate along side of Firefly?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 7, 2005 17:40
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THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:12 AM

Chrisisall.

Hey bud, fancy you not having seen either Buffy or Angel - who'd have thunk it and with you having a mate on the stunt team in the show too.

Ok to answer your question.

Buffy is a very different animal to Firefly. It's very difficult to rate it as better or worse than Firefly.

Personally I think the best episodes of Buffy were better than the best episodes of Firefly, but Firefly was the better show overall.

Buffy however has the luxury of having seasonal arc's and this is where it's overall strength lies. Ultimately the whole Buffy lore is so vast that Joss would make reference of episodes to come way in advance, sometimes even seasons in advance, and it's this that would really hook you as a viewer. The tapistry Joss wove around Buffy was enormous - so much so that for Season 4 of Buffy and Season 1 of Angel the characters were intertwined in an out of each others shows, furthering a greater larger narrative that made both shows unmissable!!!

My own take on it is that I can't be without any of them. Clearly Buffy is now the older show so it may come across as somewhat juvenile, I mean that in the non derogatory way, just that it was meant for a younger audience, and in part that may determine your opinion of it, but all the same the humour is fantastic, and the stories very enjoyable and entertaining and best of all just plain FUN!

*When I rewatch Buffy - I think Buffy is the best show ever

*When I rewatch Angel - I think Angel is the best show ever

*When I rewatch Firefly - I think Firefly is the best show ever

It's just so hard to choose.

You watch Buffy and Angel and then see if you can make up your mind.

Regards
The
Somnambulist

(Oh and just to let you know - the Stuntwork in Angel ROCKS!!!!!)

www.cirqus.com

COSMO

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:33 PM

Fans of Firefly that havent seen Buffy and/or Angel ? bad very bad.

Taste can be very different but to me the ranking have to be

1. Buffy
2. Angel
3. Firefly - mostly because the series never got the time to grow and develop like the other two series.

While early Buffy with its high school environment looks like a teen show, Joss and the rest of the writers added layers that others shows never manages to reach, while regularly ripping the viewers heart out and laughing at us for believing that they would ever allow us to become bored.

All three shows have the quality that sci-fi/fantasy fans look for, anything can happen and frequently will, and that is as TheSomnambulist said FUN.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:49 PM

Chisbo, thanks for the imput. I'm going now, to get a 2nd job so I can get 12 new seasons of JossTV.

Appreciative Chrisisall

EMMA

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:54 PM

Hmmmm...

I bought Firefly because I was having withdrawal symptoms from the Buffyverse and thought Whedon might pull it off again with FF.

I think he would have done if he had had more time. FF was an amazing series and I expect the film to be fantastic but it is not in its present form better than Buffy or Angel (if any of you know Babylon 5 I think that is better than Firefly too, please don't shoot me ).

Having said that the First Series of Buffy is pretty mediocre in comparison with the rest of the show, and in agreement with others I think Series 7 was very slow. I never liked the ending either.

To the people that argue Buffy is aimed at a younger audience I would say that it WAS but that audience grew up with the series. If anyone recalls the episode Seeing Red in S6 a major, and very popular character, attempts to rape Buffy. This is not childrens tv. Some episodes were edited down to 30 minutes by the BBC when they aired it before the watershed - this is not for ikkle people.

I haven't yet decided whether Angel is as good or better than Buffy. The ending was absolutely amazing though!

PS For those of you that have yet to see Babylon 5 (and Blakes 7 while I am at it) pleeeeese watch it. Whedon took some of his inspiration from it which must make it worth something.

I really should get me a signature

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:06 PM

Somnambulist, I was kinda hoping people were gonna say,'they're okay..' but now I see I can no longer avoid the truth; I must own them.
When I first started posting, I made no mention of not seeing Joss' other shows 'cause it seemed as if everyone but me had seen 'em, and I didn't know if that would somehow be irritating to seasoned Browncoats. Now I know much better, y'all are trying to show me the light, not give me a hidin'.
I thank you.
My wallet doesn't, but that's between me and my wallet, isn't it?
I think my biggest mistake was assuming Charmed (which I have seen a little, due to my wife's skewed tastes) was like Buffy and Angel. So I was like, seen one, seen 'em all.

And I'm not kidding about a 2nd job...

Maybe I can ask for donations like that dude on the 'Unbelievable' thread...?

Later, S

The financially challenged Chrisisall

DIETCOKE

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:22 PM

One more person's opinion here....I got into Angel in the third year and then started watching Buffy reruns in season three. I immediately played catch up and watch everything. I was starved for more Whedon and started reading the Firefly scripts on the internet and then bought the DVD.

I think Firefly had the most potential but it was never realized because the show was cut short. I love all three shows for very different reastons and I highly recommend them all.

My favorite Buffy season was season six and my favorite Angel season was season five.

While people may say that Buffy was geared to a younger audience, I would disagree, because season six was very adult and if I had a teenage daughter I'm not sure I would have wanted her to watch some of the episodes.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:42 PM

Apologies to Chrisisall's wallet. Hey if it's any consolation my wallet has been in trouble ever since mr Wheddon released his wonderful shows on DVD.

I bought all the seasons in order of release and watched them avidly avoiding any spoilers. I even refused to watch the new episodes on TV when they were ahead of the DVD releases... The only time I strayed was with Firefly when I visited a friend who had sky and he said that I gotta catch this new show on the Sci-fi channel... When I saw the opening credits and that it was a Joss Wheddon show I froze!.. tried not to take too much in although It was cool coz it was the Train Job. Thereafter I waited for the DVD release. But anyway all bought at original release prices - non of this sale malarky..... Owch!

So that's all 7 seasons of Buffy 5 of Angel and well I've bought Firefly three times now as presents for friends! SO.... Well I won't work out the money involved because frankly It'll depress me - but I think it's money well spent.

In terms of the age thing with Buffy - I don't think anyone would argue that it developed into a much more mature show than when it started - again this is another thing that makes it such a great TV show.

Laters C

Dood look out, armed Mogwai lurking in the shadows!!!

The
Somnambulist

www.cirqus.com

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:47 PM

What? I'll throw this bucket of water on 'em!!
Ha! That'll show 'e-
What's...

Uh....

Later S

Runnin' from the shadows Chrisisall

THESOMNAMBULIST

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
What? I'll throw this bucket of water on 'em!!
Ha! That'll show 'e-
What's...

Uh....

Later S

Runnin' from the shadows Chrisisall

.... Listen I'm, I'm kinda peckish.. How about you? Fancy a midnight snack!

S

www.cirqus.com

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:24 PM

Hey! You're not a Rockin' Ricky fan!

Stripe-like Chrisisall

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