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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Trig isn't required for college level work, unless you're majoring in math.

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My major was called something like "Information Systems" or something. Tech/computer related. I took a lot of programming courses, along with finishing all other necessary General Education requirements. Straight A's across the board except for "Sociology" which was just boring bullshit, and one other class I was getting an A in but I had to miss my final test because of work and my teacher was a bitch. Both of those were just mistakes on my part because they were among the Gen Ed requirements that we had quite a few different choices. I could have taken Home Ec. and been washing dishes or whatever they do in that class and got an A while being around a bunch of girls instead. Shame on me.

I actually have 20 more credits than I need to graduate, but I never got that associates because of that one stupid class. Things have probably changed over the years because of just how stupid the kids are today when we graduate them from high school, but those were the requirements back then.

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AFA algebra, it's useful for solving real world problems, and you've probably used the concepts without knowing it IRL. Maybe you had crappy teachers.

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I understand basic algebra. I took an algebra class Freshman year of high school and got an A in it. Anything that's possible to do without the need for having a Texas Instruments $100 graphing calculator was easy enough for me to do. They put me in Advanced Geometry the following year and that was fine too. But then they put me in Advanced Trig/Algebra in Jr. year, and honestly the only reason I even passed that class is because the teacher liked me and she gave me a "D" so I wouldn't fail. I did not deserve that D grade. And because that was an Advanced class, it was still worth what a "C" would have been in a regular class, so not too big a hit on my GPA. Then in Senior year I didn't even take math at all since we were only required to do 3 years of Math.

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Some forms of math are a blast! I hated differential equations(I) bc I had a teacher who treated math like it was arcana given to us by gods. My next teacher for diff eqs (II) showed it to be the fun tool that it really was.

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Unless you consider Logic Puzzles/Tests as Math, it has never really been fun for me. I guess Geometry had its moments and was kind of fun, doing those proofs.

I was always more "English" brained when it came to the meaningful classes, and my favorite classes were Art and what they called "Science and Tech" which was really just a way for two male teachers to try to save Wood/Metal/Auto shop by combining all of them into a 2 hour class and giving it a fancy name. I spent most of my time doing woodwork when I was in there because they just kind of let us do whatever we wanted to do and gave us guidance. At one point though we got this cool miniature CNC Router, and they put me in charge of learning AutoCAD and getting it to put out some cool shit on auto pilot once you put your stock in there and fired her up. We had a Job Fair at the school in the 2nd half of Senior Year and I was able to take an entire day off of school with my own table and show that thing off to all the other students.

I feel the only class I ever took on any level, including college that helped me at any job I ever worked was a 1 semester Keyboarding class, and the other semester taught by the same awesome teacher was Economics, which was probably not so helpful with work, but just life in general. I really loved those two classes and it's a shame they weren't both 1 full year and they combined them like that.

Back in the day I enjoyed doing taxes and even did them for my brother for years and some other people from time to time, but I hate even doing mine now and I'm stuck doing my aunts. But she retires next year so I won't have to do t

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


I'm the smartest guy in the room.

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Then why did you flunk out of a two year college twice? The two in two year college, doesn't mean you are supposed to flunk out two times.

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I dropped out 4 times.

The single answer is College Level Algebra and Trigonometry. Something you likely didn't even have to do back in the dinosaur days when you went to college, and even if you did, it's something you never once used in your life. No worries, since I've never needed a degree to do better than most Americans end up doing.

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Actually, I used Trig while roofing. That said, I went back to school when I was 60 and got a four-year degree; try that. Everything you say about yourself suggests you can. If you chose not to then shut up about it.

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I've done a good bit of roofing in my life. Never used trig for it, or had a boss or coworker who did. Just our tools in our belts. I imagine that it would have made some things easier or quicker to have that knowledge, but roofing was never a job that required Trig.

Don't think college is for me though. Even though I just need that one class to get an Associates Degree, I'm just not really interested. Maybe when I'm 60.



We'll see how it goes. The way I figure it, I only need to make roughly $100k for the rest of my life before SS kicks in and never worry about a bill. As long as inflation doesn't go crazy and make our currency worthless, of course. Right now I like all my free time too much to think about working 40 hours a week doing anything important.

Although, they are paying quite a bit more these days than they were the last time I worked. And a lot of people are saying that more and more businesses are looking for GenXers who don't have degrees because of the current crop of recent college grads and how disappointing most of them end up being. Maybe something drops into my lap that I wouldn't absolutely hate doing that allows me to sock away as much as I was back in my mid-to-late 20's and actually offers health insurance one day.

Hell... if I made another $300 or $400k in the next 18 or so years, I'd be living like a king in retirement. So maybe it's not such a bad thing that they're going to be taking away my Medicaid in December of 2026 and forcing me to re-evaluate my situation before I probably would have gotten around to doing it on my own. I usually have to be forced into doing things I don't want to do, and I've set myself up so well that there's nothing financial otherwise that is pushing me back into the workforce anytime soon.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I've done a good bit of roofing in my life. Never used trig for it, or had a boss or coworker who did. Just our tools in our belts. I imagine that it would have made some things easier or quicker to have that knowledge, but roofing was never a job that required Trig.

Don't think college is for me though. Even though I just need that one class to get an Associates Degree, I'm just not really interested. Maybe when I'm 60.

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Trigonometry is used when doing a hip roof for one thing. It is essential for calculating the angles and lengths of the rafters, ensuring a proper pitch and stability of the roof. Trigonometric formulas help determine the hip rafter backing angle.

You would also use it to strike your lines from the gutter to the ridge when shingling. With a hip roof there is no straight edge to measure off of.

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Originally posted by THG:

Originally posted by 1kiki: Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:08 PM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52264

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You may not noticed Signy but Jack hasn't posted anything important, or relevant, or intelligent for almost a year.
Look back through his posts. You'll find an endless stream of insane unevidenced bullshit (nobody dies of COVID, Trump won the election), and trolling. For example, have you noticed that every time someone posts an opinion Jack disagrees with, no matter how much evidence is provided, how much logic is used, how neutrally it's stated, he trolls the person rather than debate the subject? It happens every time.
Haven't you noticed it yourself? You certainly don't insist on your right to express your own opinions. You fade away when Jack trolls you for having an opinion he disapproves of. You've modified how you state yourself here, because, Jack.
This isn't Jack having a bad season. This is Jack, as Jack has decided to be, through many small decisions over time.
Though I'm sure he has handy scapegoats for his own choices. Democrats 'made' Jack swerve right. He said so himself. Women 'made' Jack mogtow. He said so himself. Trolls 'made' Jack a troll. I must have 'made' Jack ... something or other.
It's all there in all his posts. It's Jack, being Jack, as Jack has made himself: a second SECOND. A self-justified pumped-up hater, laser focused on attacking people who merely disagree.
BTW, he's not nearly as smart as he thinks himself to be either. I've known far smarter people, who were far saner. So have you.
JACK isn't 'mostly' rational. His reactions are driven by his life-long tantrum at not being the center of the world's attention and not getting everything his universally important 'specialness' deserves.
The only thing that stood between him and an unmitigated ego was his anxieties - the realization that there are things bigger and more important than him. So he 'fixed' his ego by denying reality. That's why he 'thinks' HIV/AIDS doesn't exist, along with SARS-CoV-2, global warming, and discrimination against anyone who isn't a white male.
And his new and 'improved' life is about coming out of the closet to unapologetically claim his ego is the most important thing in the entire universe ever.
But most importantly, he's boring.

THGR:
Holy fuck. Follow the link there's more. I've been reading some of 1kiki's posts about different things and at times, like now, she's dead on. I'm glad you posted this 1kiki. It helps me prove my point. I've said all the same things and more and it's nice to have you validate them.

And comrade signym. She called your number as well. You coward to the bully. I got several heads up to be careful by a certain lady who posts here. She coward and befriended the bully as well.
Time to find your courage! Join with SECOND, he is standing strong as well. Way to go TWO.

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KIKI has a temper. I don't, as much. I've told SIX I think that some of his opinions are rooted in an oppositional personality, that he bristles when confronted by "authority", and that he needs to take that out of his opinion/ decision- making bc it's going to get him in trouble.

I think that people are more apt to hear what you have to say if you're not metaphorically yelling at them with your fists balled up and a vein bulging in your forehead. Or slinging insults and venom and defamation.

I also tell SECOND that he's a pathological personality.

YOUR problem is that you believe "authorities" and "establishment" even tho they're demonstrated liars. Like SECOND and SIX, you react emotionally when reality doesn't match what you want to believe.

Capisce?




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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by THG:

Originally posted by 1kiki: Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:08 PM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52264

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You may not noticed Signy but Jack hasn't posted anything important, or relevant, or intelligent for almost a year.
Look back through his posts. You'll find an endless stream of insane unevidenced bullshit (nobody dies of COVID, Trump won the election), and trolling. For example, have you noticed that every time someone posts an opinion Jack disagrees with, no matter how much evidence is provided, how much logic is used, how neutrally it's stated, he trolls the person rather than debate the subject? It happens every time.
Haven't you noticed it yourself? You certainly don't insist on your right to express your own opinions. You fade away when Jack trolls you for having an opinion he disapproves of. You've modified how you state yourself here, because, Jack.
This isn't Jack having a bad season. This is Jack, as Jack has decided to be, through many small decisions over time.
Though I'm sure he has handy scapegoats for his own choices. Democrats 'made' Jack swerve right. He said so himself. Women 'made' Jack mogtow. He said so himself. Trolls 'made' Jack a troll. I must have 'made' Jack ... something or other.
It's all there in all his posts. It's Jack, being Jack, as Jack has made himself: a second SECOND. A self-justified pumped-up hater, laser focused on attacking people who merely disagree.
BTW, he's not nearly as smart as he thinks himself to be either. I've known far smarter people, who were far saner. So have you.
JACK isn't 'mostly' rational. His reactions are driven by his life-long tantrum at not being the center of the world's attention and not getting everything his universally important 'specialness' deserves.
The only thing that stood between him and an unmitigated ego was his anxieties - the realization that there are things bigger and more important than him. So he 'fixed' his ego by denying reality. That's why he 'thinks' HIV/AIDS doesn't exist, along with SARS-CoV-2, global warming, and discrimination against anyone who isn't a white male.
And his new and 'improved' life is about coming out of the closet to unapologetically claim his ego is the most important thing in the entire universe ever.
But most importantly, he's boring.

THGR:
Holy fuck. Follow the link there's more. I've been reading some of 1kiki's posts about different things and at times, like now, she's dead on. I'm glad you posted this 1kiki. It helps me prove my point. I've said all the same things and more and it's nice to have you validate them.

And comrade signym. She called your number as well. You coward to the bully. I got several heads up to be careful by a certain lady who posts here. She coward and befriended the bully as well.
Time to find your courage! Join with SECOND, he is standing strong as well. Way to go TWO.

---

KIKI has a temper. I don't, as much. I've told SIX I think that some of his opinions are rooted in an oppositional personality, that he bristles when confronted by "authority", and that he needs to take that out of his opinion/ decision- making bc it's going to get him in trouble.

I think that people are more apt to hear what you have to say if you're not metaphorically yelling at them with your fists balled up and a vein bulging in your forehead. Or slinging insults and venom and defamation.

I also tell SECOND that he's a pathological personality.

YOUR problem is that you believe "authorities" and "establishment" even tho they're demonstrated liars. Like SECOND and SIX, you react emotionally when reality doesn't match what you want to believe.

Capisce?

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Tuesday, September 2, 2025 10:56 AM

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I've done a good bit of roofing in my life. Never used trig for it, or had a boss or coworker who did. Just our tools in our belts. I imagine that it would have made some things easier or quicker to have that knowledge, but roofing was never a job that required Trig.

Don't think college is for me though. Even though I just need that one class to get an Associates Degree, I'm just not really interested. Maybe when I'm 60.

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Trigonometry is used when doing a hip roof for one thing. It is essential for calculating the angles and lengths of the rafters, ensuring a proper pitch and stability of the roof. Trigonometric formulas help determine the hip rafter backing angle.

You would also use it to strike your lines from the gutter to the ridge when shingling. With a hip roof there is no straight edge to measure off of.

T

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I've never built a house or done the rafters on a roof. The closest I got to that was building garages for about a half a year, but the foreman made all the cuts. Trust me... that dude didn't know shit about Trig. All done with standard tools, just like they've done it since the dawn of time.

Edited to Add: Okay... That was for sure hyperbolic. That hasn't been true since the dawn of time. The architects of the great historical monuments and buildings from hundreds of years ago sure used it. But let's just say that when we kind of made building most houses a "Paint By Number" affair since the boys came back from WWII and we needed to build the suburbs quickly, we haven't been using much trig in architecture unless you're building something important for somebody important. The types of structure that somebody is actually paying an architect to create for them.

Unless that was you and you were just building Paint By Numbers homes, you were over-educated for the job you were in, but good for you... it came in handy for a while and I bet your employer was thrilled to have you around until you found something better suited to your education.

When I said I did roofing, I just meant pulling off old shingles and putting new ones on. We've never used Trig for that and never had one single complaint. I doubt very much you're going to find any people today that do new shingle roofs that know anything about Trig and/or apply it to the job when it's wholly unnecessary with basic tools that anybody should be carrying around in their tool belt.

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Originally posted by THG:

Originally posted by 1kiki: Sunday, June 17, 2012 2:08 PM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52264

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You may not noticed Signy but Jack hasn't posted anything important, or relevant, or intelligent for almost a year.
Look back through his posts. You'll find an endless stream of insane unevidenced bullshit (nobody dies of COVID, Trump won the election), and trolling. For example, have you noticed that every time someone posts an opinion Jack disagrees with, no matter how much evidence is provided, how much logic is used, how neutrally it's stated, he trolls the person rather than debate the subject? It happens every time.
Haven't you noticed it yourself? You certainly don't insist on your right to express your own opinions. You fade away when Jack trolls you for having an opinion he disapproves of. You've modified how you state yourself here, because, Jack.
This isn't Jack having a bad season. This is Jack, as Jack has decided to be, through many small decisions over time.
Though I'm sure he has handy scapegoats for his own choices. Democrats 'made' Jack swerve right. He said so himself. Women 'made' Jack mogtow. He said so himself. Trolls 'made' Jack a troll. I must have 'made' Jack ... something or other.
It's all there in all his posts. It's Jack, being Jack, as Jack has made himself: a second SECOND. A self-justified pumped-up hater, laser focused on attacking people who merely disagree.
BTW, he's not nearly as smart as he thinks himself to be either. I've known far smarter people, who were far saner. So have you.
JACK isn't 'mostly' rational. His reactions are driven by his life-long tantrum at not being the center of the world's attention and not getting everything his universally important 'specialness' deserves.
The only thing that stood between him and an unmitigated ego was his anxieties - the realization that there are things bigger and more important than him. So he 'fixed' his ego by denying reality. That's why he 'thinks' HIV/AIDS doesn't exist, along with SARS-CoV-2, global warming, and discrimination against anyone who isn't a white male.
And his new and 'improved' life is about coming out of the closet to unapologetically claim his ego is the most important thing in the entire universe ever.
But most importantly, he's boring.

THGR:
Holy fuck. Follow the link there's more. I've been reading some of 1kiki's posts about different things and at times, like now, she's dead on. I'm glad you posted this 1kiki. It helps me prove my point. I've said all the same things and more and it's nice to have you validate them.

And comrade signym. She called your number as well. You coward to the bully. I got several heads up to be careful by a certain lady who posts here. She coward and befriended the bully as well.
Time to find your courage! Join with SECOND, he is standing strong as well. Way to go TWO.

SIGNY:
KIKI has a temper. I don't, as much. I've told SIX I think that some of his opinions are rooted in an oppositional personality, that he bristles when confronted by "authority", and that he needs to take that out of his opinion/ decision- making bc it's going to get him in trouble.

I think that people are more apt to hear what you have to say if you're not metaphorically yelling at them with your fists balled up and a vein bulging in your forehead. Or slinging insults and venom and defamation.
I also tell SECOND that he's a pathological personality.
YOUR problem is that you believe "authorities" and "establishment" even tho they're demonstrated liars. Like SECOND and SIX, you react emotionally when reality doesn't match what you want to believe.
Capisce?


THUGR:
No, you think everything, and everyone is corrupt. Except Russia of course. I believe

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