Hollywood's Abysmal 2024 in Numbers
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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 29, 2026 01:06
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it blocked up cinemas for 6 weeks!
'Joker: Folie à Deux' has ended its domestic run
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt11315808/
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Quote:Your choice: Either the original Gladiator 84E46E5A00BAFC0C566845227CF821EFB17263F2
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Gladiator 2 Is a Dismal Retread — With One Bright Spot (Denzel Washington)
But Gladiator 2 (or as it’s spelled in the opening title, GladIIator) sadly comes off as less a reinvention of the original than a curiously literal retread of its plot beats, characters, and themes.
Or an inferior piece of crap called Gladiator II. You decide.
‘Gladiator II’ is a very silly sequel, but only Denzel Washington got the memo
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/11/18/arts/gladiator-ii-ridley-scott-
paul-mescal-denzel-washington/
Since Paramount, Scott, and good old-fashioned corporate greed kick-started the idea of continuing the “Gladiator” franchise, you would think we’d get something more than a rehash of the first film. Yet there are times when the story hews so closely to the original that the sequel plays more like a remake.
Silly is one way to describe “Gladiator II,” but only Washington got the memo. Not only is he acting on a higher plane than anyone else on the screen, he’s savoring every moment. Decked out in ostentatious robes, with rings on every finger and earrings in both ears, Washington strokes his salt-and-pepper beard and plots his Machiavellian schemes with giddy gusto.
In addition to chewing every bit of scenery possible, he throws in all his “Denzel-isms”; that is, all the unique quirks that make him our greatest working actor. We get the laugh, the stern stare, the dialogue deliveries that melt like butter sizzling in a hot skillet. He takes a line like “I own your house, I want your loyalty” and turns it into an Oscar-night clip. If this movie is a hit — and judging by its $87 million international take last weekend, it will be — I wouldn’t be surprised if Washington earned a deserved third Oscar for this role.
The script by David Scarpa, who also wrote Scott’s dreadful 2023 film “Napoleon,” has little else going for it. The emperors are just too stupid to be effective villains, and the war battle sequences are as dreary as they were in “Napoleon.” The rivalry between Marcus Acacius and Lucius is resolved in a lackluster manner, though I must give props to Scott’s homage to Kurosawa’s “Throne of Blood.”
As for the gladiator matches, they’re ridiculous enough for you to wish the movie didn’t take itself so seriously. In addition to the aforementioned baboons, there are guys riding on rhinos and there’s even a water-based battle with ships. I remember being told in college World History class that the Colosseum was indeed flooded for water battles. However, I don’t recall anything about great white sharks swimming in that water.
Between the sharks, the baboons, and a bellowing Washington yelling about how great he is, “Gladiator II” feels like Scott decided to remake “Jaws,” “The Omen,” and “Training Day” along with “Gladiator.” That sounds like a lot more fun than this movie turns out to be. Thumbs up for Denzel; send the rest of this movie to the lions.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Good? If you want to see baboons and rhinos killing gladiators, sharks eating sailors, an Emperor being assassinated, but that's not my idea of "good."
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Gladiator II opens Nov 22, 2024 in the USA, but you can watch now for free!
Was it any good?
The movie did carry over one good thing from the first Gladiator: the sad music sung in a language I don't recognize played at the very end, when Russell Crowe is having a death dream of being reunited with his murdered wife and son and he walks across his fields of grain in the Pagan version of an after life.
The song “Now We Are Free” by Hans Zimmer from the 2000 film Gladiator is sung in an invented language called idioglossia created by Lisa Gerrard. Lisa Gerrard doesn't sing in English, but uses "the language of the Heart". “I sing in the language of the Heart,” begins Gerrard. “It's an INVENTED LANGUAGE that I've had for a very long time.
https://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/gladiator/index.cgi?read=85
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Bummer.
As expected though.
I have no interest in watching this sequel that nobody asked for 25 years later. Didn't matter if they reshot all the woke crap out of it or not.
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Why Red One Absolutely Bombed At The Box Office
By Chris Hodges | Nov. 19, 2024 7:02 pm EST
https://www.looper.com/1717810/red-one-why-chris-evans-the-rock-bombed
-box-office/
It's been close to 20 years since the last time a new, entirely original Christmas movie released in theaters became a big enough hit to enter anyone's annual rotation of holiday movie watching.
Over the last couple of decades, holiday films have been more the realm of made-for-TV movies and streaming originals. A notable outlier was 2018's "The Grinch," which is actually the current record holder for highest-grossing Christmas movie of all time worldwide. But it also happens to be based on one of the most iconic Christmas stories and characters in history, so it doesn't exactly qualify as a new, entirely original Christmas movie.
The last Christmas movie that was neither based on nor the sequel to an existing property and did strong numbers at the box office was "Elf" in 2003 — and even then, its global take of $229 million still would be considered a flop for a movie as costly as "Red One." The way things are going, "Red One" will be lucky to even reach that number.
Read More: https://www.looper.com/1717810/red-one-why-chris-evans-the-rock-bombed
-box-office/
Dr. Seuss’ The Grinch (2018)
Worldwide Box Office $514,873,747
Production Budget: $75,000,000 (worldwide box office is 6.9 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dr-Seuss-The-Grinch-(2018)#tab=summa
ry
Elf (2003)
Worldwide Box Office $227,909,435
Production Budget: $32,000,000 (worldwide box office is 7.1 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Elf-(2003)#tab=summary
Red One (2024)
Worldwide Box Office $84,770,372
Production Budget: $200,000,000 (worldwide box office is 0.4 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Red-One-(2024)#tab=summary
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$200 Million.
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I'm not even sure how a person would do a cut and paste remix of stuff Training Day and Jaws ... I might skip this one
Training Day Trailer
trailer and scenes?
Indianapolis Speech Scene
seems to erase history for the sake of drama, takes liberties with historical accuracy
big alterations
All the ways Gladiator 2 trashes history – and the surprising things it gets right
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ways-gladiator-2-trashes-history-1
33000738.html
Somewhat accurate-ish
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Although Geta and Caracalla did rule Rome together for a short period, after the death of their father Septimius Severus, a general who served originally under Commodus, in February 211 AD. But in reality, they were not twins: Geta was slightly younger, being born in March 189 while Caracalla was born in April 188 AD. But as the film depicts accurately, their reign was disastrous, bedevilled by poor relations between the two of them from the beginning.
half correct half wrong?
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some accuracy, at least, in the depiction of the Roman conquest of Numidia, but the timing is wholly inaccurate. Eastern Numidia, which roughly corresponds to modern-day Algeria, was conquered in 46 BC, leading to the creation of the province Africa Nova shortly afterwards. The action of Gladiator 2 is set roughly sometime between 200 and 211 AD – we’ll come back to that in a moment – which means that, even in the film’s universe, Numidia would have become a Roman outpost hundreds of years before the opening suggests.
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Did the Romans read the daily paper over coffee?
The printing press was not invented until 1440, and the first newspaper of any kind did not exist until 1566, when weekly handwritten gazettes were distributed in Venice. Coffee and tea, meanwhile, were unknown to the Romans, although it is just, theoretically, possible that Thraex could be drinking a herbal infusion of some sort, or that he has a cup of hot spiced wine in front of him.
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Quote:$300,000,000 for Wicked Part One (2024) and Part Two (2025). Variety predicts it will dazzle. I suspect it will fizzle.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/wicked-gladiator-2-box-office
-tracking-1236213633/
Why a misfire? Hollywood stretched a Broadway musical, which was watched in one sitting, into a year-long spectacle. See Wicked Part One and Two for free next year and see it in one sitting at home.
“Wicked” also has to overcome the reality that stage musicals haven’t translated to box office riches in over a decade. The last ones to really connect were 2012’s “Les Miserables” ($442 million globally) and 2014’s “Into the Woods” ($212 million globally against a $50 million budget). More recent attempts like Steven Spielberg’s “West Side Story” remake, Chu’s “In the Heights,” “Dear Evan Hansen,” “Cats” and “The Color Purple” all sputtered in cinemas despite being based on popular productions.
And then there are the actual songs, which may well leave you wishing that you didn't travel long distances and pay for tickets to hear this when you could have gotten the experience for free and at home:
Wicked - "Thank Goodness" - Original Cast
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250 million+
Jacob Kasdan Director and some Hiram Garcia story or Book
I'm not sure they will have the Top10 or can knock foreign indie movies out, it seems Chinese language films will stay in the Top 10 world wide rankings this year
Worst year yet for Hollyweird?
C.J. Johnson: The great Hollywood flops
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/nightlife/film-flops/104582090
From ‘Catwoman’ to ‘Gigli’ — behind the scenes of Hollywood’s biggest flops
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/catwoman-gigli-behind-scenes-holly
wood-140000157.html
‘Soulless’ Hollywood blockbuster with mammoth $250,000,000 budget flops at box office
https://metro.co.uk/2024/11/18/a-list-blockbuster-huge-cast-250-000-00
0-budget-flops-box-office-22016589/
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One of the biggest Christmas films of the year has been gifted lumps of coal, after making just $34,000,000 on the opening weekend, it has been claimed.
Red One was released in cinemas last week, following Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson and Chris Evans teaming up to save Santa Claus from kidnappers.
On the surface, that sounds like a guaranteed festive hit with two of the biggest A-Listers around, and it climbed the domestic box office, replacing Venom: The Last Dance at the top spot.
However, according to Deadline, it took in around $34million across the weekend, which is just a fraction of the mammoth $250million budget.
Sunday numbers
https://x.com/BORReport/
Mexico - $4.5M
Germany - $3.1M
China - $2.9M
Australia - $2.5M
Spain - $2.5M
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Originally posted by second:Quote:$300,000,000 for Wicked Part One (2024) and Part Two (2025). Variety predicts it will dazzle. I suspect it will fizzle.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I agree with your prediction on this one.
Especially when the lady playing the wicked witch has been spreading cancer on Twitter.
Not exactly Rachel Ziegler levels of cancer, but it should be enough to put a musical nobody wanted to see in theaters in the red.
Also, as a 45 year male I can appreciate what people see in Ariana Grande. I wouldn't be taking any kids of mine to see her. I don't think they possibly could have chosen somebody worse for the roll of Dorothy.
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Quote:There is no Dorothy! Ariana Grande is the Good Witch! Ariana Grande (who plays Galinda, aka Glinda the Good) and Cynthia Erivo (who plays Elphaba, aka the Wicked Witch of the West).
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Also, as a 45 year male I can appreciate what people see in Ariana Grande. I wouldn't be taking any kids of mine to see her. I don't think they possibly could have chosen somebody worse for the roll of Dorothy.
Ariana Grande is perfect for the role because: "before Grande was a megafamous pop star, before she was even a breakout actress on a Nickelodeon television show, she was a theater kid. The “thank u, next” singer charmed in a local production of Annie at 8 years old, and landed her first big gig at 15, as an original cast member of the Broadway musical 13. Though she swiftly moved onto the screen (in the teen show Victorious) and up the charts (with a handful of high-selling albums), Grande remains known for her love of the stage, still managing to do projects like 2016’s Hairspray Live! She is also, famously, a mentee of Kristin Chenoweth, Broadway’s original Galinda, and has commented on Galinda being her dream role since she first saw Wicked as a tween. If Grande’s Broadway tenure and her musical legend of a mentor weren’t enough to prove her theater-kid bona fides, Grande has also shown a breadth of musical knowledge that only a true stan of the stage could possess."
https://slate.com/culture/2024/11/wicked-movie-2024-musical-ariana-gra
nde-cynthia-erivo-broadway-theater.html
Maybe the movie can be as lucrative as the Broadway musical:
In 2016, Wicked surpassed $1 billion in total Broadway revenue, joining The Phantom of the Opera and The Lion King as the only Broadway shows to do so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(musical)
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