Elections; 2024
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Quote:Nope. You prove you are competent rather than a half-ass, lazy government employee avoiding work, except when your superior is breathing down your neck. I won't do for you.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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"If the exit polls are roughly accurate, about 19 million people who had voted for [Joe] Biden in 2020 just stayed home," Podhorzer writes. "And, again, if the exits are roughly accurate, nearly all of those who stayed home had said they were voting against Trump when they cast ballots in 2020."
Q: You are digging into the Biden 2020 “surge” voters, the infrequent voters who turned out for him in 2020 and did not turn out this year for Harris or flipped to Trump. Is there anything today that you can tell me about those voters?
A: In both the 2020 and 2024 exits, voters were asked whether their vote was mostly for the candidate they cast their ballot for or against the opponent. It’s really clear with the calculations that I have in there, that Harris pretty much kept those who had said they were voting “for” Biden four years ago, but really tanked with people who had said they were casting their ballot against Trump four years ago. Those people just stayed home. That’s about 20 million people.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/harris-trump-b
iden-why-democratic-turnout-cratered-1235164354/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Elect a clown, expect a circus: Hegseth, Gaetz, and Gabbard
Hegseth is a surprising pick to lead the most massive military bureaucracy in human history for a few reasons, including his assertion that women should not serve in combat roles; his successful lobbying during the first Trump administration for pardons for convicted and alleged war criminals; his description of “a war on two fronts” -- one against “radical Islamist ideology” and the other against “domestic enemies,” namely, “the Left”; his opposition to the supposed “infection” of left-wing policies in the military; and his assertion a few years ago that “the Iraq War is an example of what America got right when we got it right.”
Asked by one reporter if he thought Gaetz had the character and experience to be attorney general, Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) stared at them incredulously, waited six seconds to answer and then said, again, with a laugh: “Are you shittin’ me, that you asked that question? No. But hell, you’ll print that and now I’ll be investigated.”
After her failed presidential run in 2020, Gabbard left the Democratic Party (she seems to announce doing this at least once a week) and became something of a conservative celebrity, elevating transphobia, spreading Russian propaganda, and unsuccessfully endorsing Republicans.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/13/elect-a-clown-expect-a-cir
cus-hegseth-gaetz-and-gabbard/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So, are you for or against regulations?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
I am not. Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.
And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.
It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.
These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.
I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.
Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Quote:Not for, or not against?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
SIGNY: So, are you for or against regulations?
SIX: I am not.
Quote:Are you fucking kidding? Air and water are a lot cleaner now. I hope your lack of knowledge is just bc you're too young to remember how it used to be.
SIX: Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.
Pollution control costs money, SIX. I've heard chrome platers say it's cheaper for them to ship their small parts to China and have them plated there and ship them back than to meet regulations. And they can spew out a powerful known (i.e. backed by human exposure data) carcinogen. If there was ever a chemical that needed control, that's one.
Every industry we ever regulated, from mom and pop dry cleaners, to national paint and coating manufacturers to oil refineries to household cleaning products manufacturers, has told us the same story. And, while it is sometimes exaggerated, businesses have closed down bc of regulation. Protection is not cost-free and will never be.
So, you want to be protected from microplastics? EPA is prohibited from regulating a chemical unless it's been shown to be harmful. Microplastics is so far down the list of concerns you're asking for the impossible. And if you think that's not right, be prepared to fight everyone from the chemical companies that make the precursors (monomers and oligomers) all the way down to plastic shopping bag manufacturers.
Quote:The real cost isn't keeping the agencies running. You have an exaggerated view. The real cost is to business. Like I said, pollution control costs money.
SIX: And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.
It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.
These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.
And it's not the EPA that's poisoning you, SIX. It's industry. Bc they will do whatever, sell whatever, dump whatever, as long as it makes them money.
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SIX: I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.
Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.
Yanno SIX, regulation would be so simple if agencies could simply say "don't".
Don't lend out more money than you can back with cash in the vault.
Don't sell shit that's bad for people. (BTW the big problem with Fruit Loops is the sugar. )
Don't spew pollution into the air and water and soil.
Don't make single-use, last-forever trash.
Don't put people's sensitive information on vulnerable servers.
Don't be a monopoly.
But then, every industry, every
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All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Quote:Wow! Your life history explained in few words. All Trumptards think they are smarter than everybody, but they have been poisoned/held-back/cheated by elites/government/bankers/environment/family/Mexicans/Chinese.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Only Trump can fix it.
“Early Warning Signs of Fascism.”
Based on research of the development of fascist regimes around the world by Laurence W. Britt, who wrote about the subject for the journal Free Inquiry, the list includes 14 items:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain For Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government Intertwined
9. Corporate Power Protected
10. Labor Power Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
https://www.thenation.com/premium/politics/raskin-impeachment-insurrec
tion/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/holocaust-museum-warning-signs-fasci
sm/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The Cost-of-Living Crisis Explains Everything
The economy under Biden looked good but felt bad.
By Annie Lowrey | November 11, 2024
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/biden-harris-economy
-election-loss/680592/
The Biden administration passed $3 trillion of legislation aimed at revitalizing the American economy and fostering green, equitable, “middle-out” growth. It sent checks to voters, canceled student-loan debt, made direct deposits to parents, showered the country in tax credits, and financed the construction of roads, transmission lines, and bridges. Kamala Harris ran as Joe Biden’s successor in the midst of what some financial analysts described as the greatest economy ever, characterized by strong wage growth, low unemployment, falling inequality, and world-beating GDP.
Harris’s loss has spurred finger-pointing, soul-searching, and garment-rending. For years, thinkers on the left had urged the White House to not just talk about popular issues but also deliver on them—a concept referred to by wonks as deliverism. The Biden-Harris team embraced the idea, and many staffers believed they’d delivered.
Deliverism is just a long word for one of the most basic tenets of electoral politics, buttressed by decades of studies as well as by common sense: Make voters richer, win more of them. Why, if Biden did that, did the Democrats lose?
“When the economy does well for most households, and when programs help create security and opportunity for more people to participate in that economy, political rewards follow,” Mark Schmitt of New America wrote the week before the election, when polls showed the contest as close but likely lost for the liberal side. “What I’m looking for in the 2024 election is some indication of whether this feedback loop still works at all, and if not, whether we can ever hope to recreate some connection” between policy and politics.
Democrats may be tempted now to answer in the negative. But there is a strong case to be made that the 2024 election demonstrates that the feedback loop between policy choices and electoral outcomes does in fact endure—even if it is weakening and weirding. The issue is not that deliverism failed. It is that Democrats convinced themselves that they had delivered, without listening to the voters telling them they had not.
If you look at the headline economic statistics, Donald Trump’s broad-based and definitive win makes little sense. The jobless rate has been below 4.5 percent for three years. The inflation rate has been subdued for more than a year. Real wages—meaning wages adjusted for inflation—are climbing for all workers, and particularly the lowest-income workers. Inequality is easing. The stock market is on fire. Productivity is strong, and start-ups are booming. The United States’ GDP growth rate is double that of the European Union.
The Biden administration helped create that economy. With a narrow legislative window, the administration nevertheless passed a gigantic COVID stimulus bill, the American Rescue Plan. It sent $1,400 checks to millions of families, provided thousands of dollars to parents to defray child-care costs, and shored up local-government coffers.
Then it passed a trio of heavy-infrastructure bills aimed at reshoring the semiconductor industry, transitioning businesses and homes to green energy, and fixing up transportation infrastructure across the country. Biden staffers talked about the trio as a kind of New Deal Lite. Folks might “one day come to remember this as the Big Deal,” Pete Buttigieg, the transportation secretary and eternal political hopeful, told The New Yorker this past summer. “Its bigness is the defining factor.”
Yet one could select other defining factors, among them the infrastructure bills’ lack of easy-to-grasp deliverables. I cover economic policy. I would be hard-pressed to explain what constitutes the Big Deal without putting someone to sleep; when I summarize the legislation, I often say “green-energy stuff.” Moreover, many of those deliverables were not instantaneous; tod
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Wow! Your life history explained in few words.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.
The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.
You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.
And it looks like both CNN and MSNBC are going to be purging a lot of people over the next few months, so maybe you won't have them telling you to be an asshole every day.
Check out what Joy Reid said on a TikTok video in the last 48 hours. My guess is she's one of the first major firings for that.
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Trump is fine.
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POPULAR VOTE:
75,870,227 for Trump (50.2%) / 72,856,990 for Harris (48.2%).
Total votes counted: 148,727,217
Trump's lead: 3,013,237
California: 13% left
Oregon: 9% left
Washington D.C.: 8% left
Utah: 7% left
Maryland: 4% left
Alaska: 5% left
Washington: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
New York: 3% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nevada: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 6,779,068 now.
Trump now has 1,646,858 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 8,425,926 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
NOTE: I don't think that Google's count of California was particularly accurate. Now they're saying that only 13% of California remains, which would only be around 1.78 Million more votes. That would now get us down to only 5 Million less votes than 2020, but when I did the math yesterday for what California had left that would have gotten us down to only 4.3 Million without any votes from other states.
So there will be less votes in 2024 than in 2020, which we already knew there would be. But it may end up being close to 5 Million when I was thinking under 4 Million just yesterday.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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