The Joker 2: The Musical Doo Deux failure thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Sunday, July 26, 2026 16:00
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Quote:The financiers should have invested in a higher-value, lower-risk project but the people who walked away from this stinking dumpster fire with $190 million are smelling the perfume of money.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
while Joker 2 is $190–200 million.
one of those times a sequel should never have been made.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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on the third day its almost down -30% or -29.9%
Overseas numbers on Joker 2 the British -23% French sales in collapse -38% Germany -27% Poland is down -22.9% and Italy finally a positive with an opening weekend +99%
South Korea less collapse but it failed to reach number 1 so its Overall trend is downward vs other markets
There is a chance the movie The Wild Robot catches Joker 2 Folie à Deux... 3,997 Theaters vs 4,102 Theaters
and one time they thought this tranny stuff a good idea?
DC Comics fans outraged as new Batman plot sees the Joker become PREGNANT and give birth
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11609947/DC-Comics-fans-outra
ged-new-Batman-plot-sees-Joker-PREGNANT-birth.html
in South Korea it has already been knocked off the number 1 spot
'Executioner'
a poorly rated film vs a 100% film
Veteran 2: I, the Executioner
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/veteran_2_i_the_executioner
Film Theory: What If EVERY Joker Was Charged For Their Crimes
Joker 2 loses $70,000,000 as it’s ranked lower than ‘worst film of 2024’
https://metro.co.uk/2024/10/07/joker-2-loses-70-000-000-ranked-lower-w
orst-film-2024-21746863/
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expecting The Wild Robot to surpass but then outperform Joker 2 in sales in the next days....it already beat Transformers One?
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Opens in Japan on the 11th Day of October
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11315808/releaseinfo/?ref_=tt_dt_rdat
the Japanese box office market is small these days
Japan opens this FRI, China releases following week
https://x.com/GiteshPandya/status/1842959786381607127
There is that line....you get what you fricking deserve...but they decided to go with the ass rape humilation ritual and depressing degeneracy....
Trashed By Fans
So, supposedly they filmed 3 different endings for JokerFolieADeux in case the real one (which “it did”) leaked and they decided to NOT GO WITH THIS ONE???
https://x.com/GagaUnderMike/status/1842391646480019732
Lower than expected 37 not 40
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Early estimates for US opening weekend on Joker were close to $100 Million. They were then revised down to $70 Million. A few days before release that was dropped to around $50 to $55 million, and now the studio projections are only $40 Million.
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce says it's probably going to make only $50 Million this weekend though
‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Flops With Lower-Than-Projected $37 Million Box Office Debut
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/joker-folie-a-deux-flops-box-
office-worse-than-expected-opening-weekend-1236169811/
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By comparison, the original “Joker” earned $39 million on Friday alone in 2019.
Initial tracking was closer to $70 million, but those projections shrank dramatically in recent weeks to $50 million to $60 million. Monday’s final tally is below Sunday’s estimate of $40 million, which was flop territory
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Compared with the trash of Joker 2, movies like The Chronicles of Riddick, Titan AE, Mars Needs Moms, The Postman, Showgirls, Dark Phoenix, Justice League and Morbius are a master piece?
Is this worse than Santa Claus vs the Martians, Howard the Duck or Troll 2 at least they were funny, bad in a good way....Golden Raspberry Award or Razzie Awards contender?
Director Paul Verhoeven, whose Showgirls earned a record 13 Golden Raspberry Award nominations, was the first person to attend the ceremony and accept the awards in person
https://web.archive.org/web/20200808130420/https://editorial.rottentom
atoes.com/article/38th-razzie-award-winners-announced/?cmp=TWRT_Winners_Razzies
the 38th Razzies, The Emoji Movie, Transformers The Last Knight, Fifty Shades Darker, The Mummy and movies like Baywatch
Joker 2 could try for
Worst Picture
Worst Director
Worst Song
Worst Actor
Worst Actress
Worst Supporting Actor
Worst Supporting Actress
Worst Screenplay
Worst Visual Effects
Worst Remake, Rip-off or Sequel
Worst Screen Combo
So The only way to save it is to release a behind-the-scenes comedy of failures
Todd Phillips and Scott Silver thinking it needs more gay rape, needed more
it pissed of the Leftwing Liberals it pissed off the Rightwing Conservatives, Todd Phillips steals and launders money to trash his own film and even decided to make a movie that was designed to anger the fan base that’s what happening...its sick, dark, perverted, depressing and boring and the musical aspect poorly done.
causal movie going fans hate it
elite critics hate it
Kamala voters hate it
Trump voters hate it
Marvel fans hate it
DC fans hate it
Ford hates it
Ferrari hates it
Dallas Cowboys hate it
Washington Redskins hates it
Boston Celtics hate it
LA Lakers hate it
India hates it
Pakistan hates it
Jews hate it
Muslims hate it
Atheists hate it
Christians have hatred for it
and even Buddhists have hatred for it
Mr Ying hates it
and so does Mr Yang
...maybe even aliens on planet Mars would also hate it
the consensus is it universally disliked
courtroom drama dull and not so riveting
WB is fighting vs WB at the box office
marketing, a comedy of errors
40 min vid, he says under 100 Million Domestically
a name that just emitted silly failure... overly indulgent, pretentious attempting to impress, presumptuous, lah-di-dah smug direction, fake, arrogant, pompous a director of vain and too much ego and the delusion of self-importance
Universités haute couture je ne sais quoi de Francophonia
Lady Gaga over-rated Stefani Germanotta...there are momenst you think she will add something a spark or life or performance to New York City but it just never really happens.
Frenchy name or a French subtitle probably made it seem even more pretentious
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Lower than expected 37 not 40
LOL... Holy crap. Sony highballed the hell out of that opening weekend projection trying to save a little face in the online weekend articles.
I'm seeing $37.8 Million on The-Numbers right now.
It's much lower than expected. Last estimates coming in expected around $50 Million. The projections were already $10 Million behind the heavily reduced expectations and it ended up over $2 Million lower than those.
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Early estimates for US opening weekend on Joker were close to $100 Million. They were then revised down to $70 Million. A few days before release that was dropped to around $50 to $55 million, and now the studio projections are only $40 Million.
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce says it's probably going to make only $50 Million this weekend though
‘Joker: Folie à Deux’ Flops With Lower-Than-Projected $37 Million Box Office Debut
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/joker-folie-a-deux-flops-box-
office-worse-than-expected-opening-weekend-1236169811/
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By comparison, the original “Joker” earned $39 million on Friday alone in 2019.
Initial tracking was closer to $70 million, but those projections shrank dramatically in recent weeks to $50 million to $60 million. Monday’s final tally is below Sunday’s estimate of $40 million, which was flop territory
$50 Million was already flop territory. With the $81 Million internationally, it still would have only grossed $131 Million on a $190 Million budget and would not have reached 80% of it. With the reduced international interest, I think this needed to make closer to $90 Million in the states if it was going to have a chance of breaking even. In order to have been a sure thing to not lose money, it would have needed in the area of about $125 Million in the states this weekend.
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He will also be your next President.
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Have you run the numbers yet? I'm thinking going by your previous forecasts it would need 400M from Japan and China to break even-ish and make a little profit...which ain't happening...and then Joker 2 would need to sell a bunch of toys and DVDs and T-shirts get get any bigger profit...which also ain't happening.
Also falls to 2nd place in New Zealand behind The Wild Robot, so the South Korean trend of a falling Joker 2 might continue in other markets.
Schumacher at least apologized for Batman and Robin, but Todd seems to be sniffing his own gay homosexual farts and calling it 'Art' or something? Hollyweirdo corporate propaganda and agendas seem to have killed it also and the Harley Quinn—this is a strange version, the musical element didn't work and it was like some feminist re-imagining
the whole brand of Joker or franchise it doesn't seem to be a Joker or Batman Joker it was its own universe thing more about Riots, his delusion with Zazie Beetz as Sophie with her Karine Jean-Pierre haircut, a Taxi Driver King of Comedy tribute, anarchy on the streets, the rise of Lady Gaga....the whole 'Joker' thing never really felt like Joker to me, I was never a fan of the first film.
joker got old went to jail got gay homosexual and gang raped then some big dude stabbed and killed him, and said No I'm Joker instead...and Gaga seems to have rejected him or aborted the kids or dumped him or something... he bleeds out as an insult to its fanbase.
and finance...have they learned nothing. What the heck are these studios doing with budgets of 200 Million?
they need to keep budgets Low...ok you have exceptions like Spider-Man No Way Home and Wolverine Deadpool but its a smaller market now, the days of the Harry Potters, Avengers Endgame, LOTR and Ironmans is over...keep costs low
Godzillia Minus One Japan had a Budget $10 million-ish and made $120+ million
Joker is a writers disaster. I seen a few clips leak online just to confirm the crazy stuff they said in reviews are true and I'm not sure who stabs him...a random henchman, Connor Storrie’s inmate, Jacob Lofland Ricky Meline, or some psycho cosplay fan the fanatic type of "fan" convict inmate...maybe it was the nutty kid of Robert De Niro tv host...hold on I'm starting to write a better plot than Joker 2 it being such a crap movie....who was the big guy stabbed and killed him? ... in the end I only watched a few mins of it and don't really care
the reviews trashing it are far more entertaining
Vocaroo - The premier voice recording service
Foul Explicit language just like that shit movie
https://vocaroo.com/16TkOKBz3CXE
its JINO
Joker In Name Only
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Countryside rural people have not watched it at all
seems like sales all of the Joker-2 business for this was in US cities/on the coasts.
"We also understand that the lower 40% of theaters for Joker 2 only generated 5% of the gross." That means the lower 1,640 theaters averaged roughly $1,150
https://deadline.com/2024/10/joker-folie-a-deux-box-office-1236109191/
movies have been in decline maybe 2015, declined by Avengers End Game took a big hit with Covid and then all this DEI SJW left vs right, conservative vs liberal political a lot of theater reported as almost empty or half-empty on opening night and opening weekend
the cinemas might push it out to make room for Venom 3 or some Bollywood thing or a re-run of a Disney Pixar or Horror for Halloween Christmas period
...Joker 2 is about to be dropped like a rock
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Some critics argue that Joker 2 isn’t a musical — but it has songs and singing and dancing, and that’s what pissed off a 9PM Century City AMC attendees on Saturday who were shouting at the screen. We also understand that the lower 40% of theaters for Joker 2 only generated 5% of the gross.
https://deadline.com/2024/10/joker-folie-a-deux-box-office-1236109191/
Joker 2 in its final domestic will be greatly lower than the opening of the original movie, which continues to stand as an October domestic record with $96.2M.
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The Marvels, which was Marvel Studios’ lowest opening ever last November at $46.1M fell through the floor with a -78% drop in weekend 2 with $10.1M and that was off a ‘B’ CinemaScore.
A Pre-Covid movie Joker a Budget $55–70 million Box office $1.07 billion was compared to a post Covid movie Oppenheimer and The Batman
The Batman vs. Joker
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd356185604/
so let's compare Joker 2?
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons/Joker-Folie-a-De
ux-(2024)/Oppenheimer-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison
because it is doing so poorly it risks getting switched out they could put in an old Classic Western or Romance from the US instead, Japan anime like Demon Slayer or One Piece type anime or My Hero Academia could be put in theaters where it fails to earn. Cinemas have to make money they might add a Spanish langauge or weird arty Eurotrash film or a China animation Boonie Bears, or some India Hindi Bollywood thriller thing like the Monkey Man film they might put on re-runs of StarWars, Batman, Spider-Man or some Disney Dreamworks kids animation or re-run old Aliens or re-run some random Horror genre movie instead.
one of the few movies it does compare well to in a Graph is the earnings of Morbius 2022, this Morbius had trouble getting near 100 Million, its final Box office was $165 million and is classed as a box office flop
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They are walking out because its not entertaining, sick grossly annoying and boring
‘Joker 2’ moviegoers are leaving theaters mid-showing: ‘What the f–k is this?’
https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/entertainment/joker-2-moviegoers-leaving
-mid-show-what-the-f-k-is-this/
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, “That s–t was garbage. Don’t waste your time. What the f–k? Two hours I am never going to get back. Don’t f–king waste your time.”
Mark Hamill is a voice actor who has also portrayed the Joker
Cesar Romero from the Adam West tv series and Lego Joker is thought to be a little to slapstick to be taken serious as a performance, Jack Nicholson continues ranking very high as a performance.
Joker was also played by Barry Keoghan the actor from Chernobyl, Masters of the Air, Saltburn in the Matt Reeves movie with Robert Pattinson, Zoe Kravitz film with the Riddler and Penguin characters.
they cut it from the film
Joker was also played by Andrew Koenig in a fan movie, son of Walter Koenig who originally played Pavel Chekov in Star Trek
Mostly people rank Jared Leto Suicide Squad Joker as the worst but now Joker-2 might rank as the worst?
You can rank this performance next to “Sharon Stone” Catwoman or the freakishly overdeveloped head in the new Marvel Disney Antman flop, Jonah Hex bad guy with John Malkovich, Judge Dredd evil clone by Armand Assante or Batman Forever Riddler.
Farrell or Nicholson or Hardy or James Earl Jones or Willem Dafoe
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Phoenix
Joaquin Phoenix he was the biggest thing, it is doubful he will even get a flashback scene in Gladiator 2
There are times when Joaquin Phoenix had amazing performances but then
Napoleon
and now another FLOP?
does he need to do New York and London Stage and Theater again?
maybe he could cook and sell vegan food through some brand or company
Phoenix has an ability for music videos
with these flops has he deranked himself as A-List and now B movie material
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Maybe 'The Wild Robot' can gets back to No. 1 spot?
Who Benefited From Joker 2 Bombing At The Box Office? Everyone Else
https://www.slashfilm.com/1682446/joker-2-box-office-bomb-movies-benef
ited/
Indonesian Horror Film ‘Perewangan’ Picked Up by U.S.-Thai Distributor EST N8
https://www.topthreeus.com/indonesian-horror-film-perewangan-picked-up
-by-est-n8/
Venom The Last Dance is expected to beat Joker 2
they might also put the Halloween movies or Abigail 2024 back in cinema
and other possibilities of Joker 2 money?
the Chinese probably will not save Joker-2, it perhaps does not culturally appeal to them and its too far down
China Box Office: 'Volunteers 2' Dominates Holiday Weekend
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/china-box-office-volunteers-2-domin
ates-holiday-weekend-1236169632/
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