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The Joker 2: The Musical Doo Deux failure thread

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Sunday, October 6, 2024 12:52 PM

Jeez...

That's the type of behavior best saved for the late night showing of Borderlands or Vindicating Trump when you're the only two in the room.



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Sunday, October 6, 2024 6:59 PM

Where is it moving now? DOM: $90-100M and then maybe WW: $270
?

However Worldwide could be very bad

Quote:

Korea - $1.75M
France - $1.3M
Italy - $1M
India - $0.75M



with numbers this bad I've a feeling China will also dump it

yet it can get much worse, overseas numbers are terrible now

but the era of DVD sales are over
it won't sell 'Toys' like other Disney stuff
a Budget 200 Million, not including promotion and advertising



Insider Reveals Joker 2 is Painfully Bad: “It was so boring they almost fell asleep”

https://fandomwire.com/insider-reveals-joker-2-is-painfully-bad-it-was
-so-boring-they-almost-fell-asleep
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Sunday, October 6, 2024 7:33 PM

As bad as it is, Joker is still #1 in ticket sales (USA) for the weekend.

Daily Domestic Chart for Friday October 4, 2024
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2024/10/04
Joker: Folie a Deux $20,000,000
The Wild Robot $4,920,000
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice $2,700,000
Transformers One $1,370,000
Speak No Evil $840,000
Deadpool & Wolverine $414,000
Am I Racist? $128,000
Saturday Night $102,000
The Forge $100,000
Alien: Romulus $77,000
Vindicating Trump $56,000
It Ends With Us $30,000
Despicable Me 4 $24,000
Twisters $24,000
Faith of Angels $21,160
Inside Out 2 $3,000

Daily Domestic Chart for Saturday October 5, 2024
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2024/10/05
Joker: Folie a Deux $11,400,000
The Wild Robot $8,150,000
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice $4,600,000
Transformers One $2,405,000
Speak No Evil $1,220,000


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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, October 6, 2024 9:53 PM

Too Long?

Running Time
2 hr 18 min

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt11315808/

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Sunday, October 6, 2024 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Too Long?

No matter what the length, a turd is a turd. Joker 2 revealed itself as a turd in the first 2 and a half minutes, which was a Joker-themed cartoon before the main show.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, October 6, 2024 11:40 PM

it seems like there is a remote chance it could spend another few days at number 1 gathering up cash internationally but soon it will be up against Terrifier 3, a 'Trump' film called 'The Apprentice' the Marvel Disney Sony movie Venom The Last Dance, Hellboy The Crooked Man, Juror No 2, Red One a Christmas theme upcoming American action-adventure comedy film, serial killer movie Woman of the Hour, Gladiator II.


New Hellboy ranking at 31% from critics' reviews positive, with an average rating of 4/10...Hellboy is out now vs Joker 2 but it was already released in June 2024 in the country of Belgium

Joker 2 is suffering
Most are calling it a flop, a loss for the studio

poor feed back, trashed by critics and weak audience scores, the question is how much will it have lost

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Monday, October 7, 2024 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Flop...or Not?

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
As bad as it is, Joker is still #1 in ticket sales (USA) for the weekend.






Well... This happens all the time. Almost every big-budget movie that failed this year, even most of the ones that failed hard, were 1st place in the box office on the weekend. That's just how the industry works and why the release schedule matters so much. Especially when these budgets are so insane. If another mid-to-high budget movie came out that people liked this weekend, Joker 2 would not have taken 1st place.

But it was up against The Wild Robot, a mid-budget Universal cartoon which was out for 2 weekends, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice which has already been out 5 weekends, and Deadpool and Wolverine which has already been out 11 weekends.

Early estimates for US opening weekend on Joker were close to $100 Million. They were then revised down to $70 Million. A few days before release that was dropped to around $50 to $55 million, and now the studio projections are only $40 Million.

It made $81 Million worldwide, which looks impressive compared to the $40 Million US Box office, but the original Joker ultimately ended up grossing 3 times as much outside of the US.

The budget for the movie was $190 Million, which means it needs something like $487 Million to break even. From my tracking over the last few years, a movie that doesn't make 80% of the production budget back worldwide will not break even. There have been some rare exceptions to this rule, but those are really only children's movies that pull off that feat.

I could give a pretty accurate worldwide guess after next weekend, but nothing that happened this weekend suggests there is any possibility this movie grosses anything close to breaking even right now. I would say that $400 Million is the absolute peak it could ever make after this weekend, but I doubt very much it ever reaches that with a D Cinema score and bad word of mouth. I think something closer to $300 Million worldwide is more likely than $400 Million.

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Monday, October 7, 2024 5:12 AM

Weekend projections: Folie à Deux limping towards $40-million opening

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/257780830-Weekend-projections-Folie-a
-Deux-limping-towards-40-million-opening


Quote:

After Megalopolis’ creative swing and miss last weekend, Joker: Folie à Deux continues the trend this weekend, with filmgoers not finding the musical anti-hero movie to their liking. Warner Bros. is projecting the film will make $40 million by close of business today, well less than half of what the studio would have hoped for when they greenlit the project.

...

There’s virtually no good news to be found in Joker’s numbers this weekend. The model thought it should hit $50 million based on its preview numbers and baseline strength, but it’s falling well short of that goal. Its D CinemaScore tells you pretty much all your need to know (Megalopolis managed a D+ last weekend). A short run in theaters seems a certainty at this point, with $100 million domestically looking like a challenge.



Womp womp.

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Monday, October 7, 2024 2:28 PM

Trump Troll Face

and Kamala?

Kamala Harris Laughing Reminds Me of Cesar Romero as the Joker





it struggles in parts of Europe

China is the big overseas box office today...but it will be late opening in Chinese Cinema markets.

the French used to be big cinema goers but that market has collapsed...plus Joker 2 is disliked in France, the Italians and Mexicans are now a bigger market than French with South Korea and Brazil catching French sales or passing them.


some of the French winners in Sept

1Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice Hollywood remake
2Kaizen a documentary about a famous French YouTuber, attempting to summit the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest
3Le comte de Monte Cristo a French period adventure-drama film based on the 1844 novel
4Le fil a 2024 French legal drama
5Emilia Perez a 2024 Spanish-language French musical crime comedy

there was a change for the French the next week

1Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice
2L'heureuse élue a French family drama couple comedy maybe also filmed in Morocco and other locations
3Le comte de Monte Cristo
4Le fil
5Megalopolis a US movie, the scifi drama film written, directed and produced by Francis Ford Coppola


comparing both Jokers trends....in France they expect Joker 2, to make less than the half of the first movie on the opening week


Joker 2 Folie à Deux by international market

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1842960874874806329

British - $8.0M
French - $5.0M
Germans - $6.9M
Italy - $5.6M
Mexico - $5.5M
Brazil - $4.7M
S. Korea - $3.7M
Australia - $3.1M
Spain - $3.1M


Joker director Todd Phillips isn’t planning a Harley Quinn spinoff or more DC movies
https://www.flickeringmyth.com/joker-director-todd-phillips-isnt-plann
ing-a-harley-quinn-spinoff-or-more-dc-movies
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in South Korea Joker 2 risks falling to 4th place, it is already collapsing behind 'The Executioner' two other films Love in the Big City a SKorea production and The Wild Robot a US film are challenging Joker 2 for that 2nd spot, in South Korea the movie Wild Robot is holding steady-ish, China and Japan have yet to open, the Japanese are always one of the last markets to open and typically cinema sales are not very high in Japan....that's what I have seen on international reports, c'est fini? Jokeover

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Monday, October 7, 2024 4:29 PM

I assume nobody will watch this


so SPOILERS


here is what they say the plot is


SPOILER!!


its like a boring Hillary Trump trial injury....so in order to make it more 'exciting' Arthur aka Joker dismisses some lawyer attorney team 'Maryanne'? and represents himself at a trial, its a musical and other guys blast the courthouse, guys dressed as joker bomb or blow up the court and help him escape


they say Joker gets raped or beat with a bar of soap and then stabbed to death or abused by guards in jail
You don't see 'A Rape' but after the event he sits with a sore ass his butt checks clenched in a chair with this blank painful stare into space...so he was probably raped.
the prisoners are singing a Christian hymn during the homosexual rape scene...because Hollyweirdo


Arthur aka Joker wanders through Gotham city and encounters Lee aka the singer Harley Quinn? outside his old apartment, but she rejects him, says she aborts the baby or something or wants a new Joker line and pushes him away for renouncing his Joker persona and admits that the pregnancy is nothing or a lie...she dumps him.


there are lots of somewhat random dance or singing number...which seem to be bad according to people who do Singing or Ballroom or Music...its a BAD MUSICAL


some big dude comes along, says he wants to tell a joke and stabs him and says you're not the Joker and says 'Im the Joker'


Arthur aka Joker bleeds to death

Reports are saying ‘Joker2 Folie a Deux’ international weekend opening numbers might be very similar to ‘Morbius’ that strange dark Vampire Spider-Man Jared Leto, Matt Smith, Adria Arjona movie that almost nobody watched. Morbius had a Budget 70-80 Million? while Joker 2 is $190–200 million.

Joker: Folie à Deux Flips Off Fans and Haters Alike
https://medium.com/@jeremyfassler/did-todd-phillips-even-want-to-make-joker-2-8cb49812843f

Minds is full of dumb meme jokes about the Joker getting raped in the ass
https://www.minds.com/discovery/search?f=top&t=all&q=%23joker

Joker: Folie à Deux Off To A Slow Start At The Box Office, But That's No Surprise
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/joker-folie-a-deux-off-to-a-slow-sta
rt-at-the-box-office-but-thats-no-surprise/1100-6526918
/

When was the last time a blockbuster flopped this bad both critically and commercially?
https://moviechat.org/tt11315808/Joker-Folie-a-Deux/67029e81300d3614e9
986f5a/When-was-the-last-time-a-blockbuster-flopped-this-bad-both-critically-and-commercially


ignored?...this was the only thread I could find but not directly related to the movie
https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5020376

people giving it a pass not watching
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/649159-joker-folie-%E0-deux-2024-
d-phillips-s-joaquin-phoenix-lady-gaga-11.html


Blu-ray Forum Movies
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=322352&page=64

It flopped
https://www.filmboards.com/t/Joker%3A-Folie-%C3%A0-Deux/It-flopped-353
6725
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one of those times a sequel should never have been made.

https://odysee.com/@Alteori:c/joker-2-folie-%C3%A0-deux-you-get-what-you:6

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