Break up Iraq, morons!!!!!!!! Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by kpo:
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While the situation is bad in Iraq, Afganistan is really the more dangerous problem anyway.
How d'you figure Gino?
I think from the start the US leaned too much on Musharraf in Pakistan. While he is holding on, the country has been destabilized by its forced support of US policy in the region which is not at all popular on the ground there. In addition he was forced to fire three or four of his top Generals eroding his support in the military. As they are in a more or less cold war with an aggressive India, if Musharraf was to be killed or forced from power, any new regime would need immediate support to survive, and two regional powers will step in, China which would drive India even more nuts ( they don't get along either ) and Iran with an exchange of Nuclear tech as a likely trade.
In addition the warlords in de facto control of Northern Afghanistan are former KGB and communist party stooges, neighboring states ( Iran, China, Pakistan, several former Russian republics even India ) all have strong reasons to want the US to fail here, and leave. Anarchy at the end of the Soviet occupation was acceptable then, at the end of the American one... why not
And if the US attacks Iran ( really bad )
or India forces a confrontation with Pakistan
( even worse with mushroom clouds going up )
it could get really really bad in a big hurry
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i think there are too many competing ideologies right now to form a cohesive 'national' unified government. we cant even do that here! someone during the republican debate quoted Franklin(i think) refferring to Iraq, saying 'weve given you "a republic, if you can keep it". i think a constitutional republic is the only way to go.. with a limited central power, which is there to uphold the constitution and protect state and local rights. let the communities govern themselves.. stop trying to impose international authority on people
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ON TV NEWS: WHITE HOUSE CAUGHT ARMING THE ENEMY IN IRAQ, GIVING WEAPONS TO THE SAME TERRORISTS WHO BOMB US SOLDIERS EVERY DAY!
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U.S. Arming Sunni Insurgents in Iraq
NY Times
June 11, 2007
With the four-month-old increase in American troops showing only modest success in curbing insurgent attacks, American commanders are turning to another strategy that they acknowledge is fraught with risk: arming Sunni Arab groups that have promised to fight militants linked with Al Qaeda who have been their allies in the past.
American commanders say they have successfully tested the strategy in Anbar Province west of Baghdad and have held talks with Sunni groups in at least four areas of central and north-central Iraq where the insurgency has been strong. In some cases, the American commanders say, the Sunni groups are suspected of involvement in past attacks on American troops or of having links to such groups. Some of these groups, they say, have been provided, usually through Iraqi military units allied with the Americans, with arms, ammunition, cash, fuel and supplies.
American officers who have engaged in what they call outreach to the Sunni groups say many of them have had past links to Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia but grew disillusioned with the Islamic militants' extremist tactics, particularly suicide bombings that have killed thousands of Iraqi civilians.
But critics of the strategy, including some American officers, say it could amount to the Americans' arming both sides in a future civil war. The United States has spent more than $15 billion in building up Iraq's army and police force, whose manpower of 350,000 is heavily Shiite. With an American troop drawdown increasingly likely in the next year, and little sign of a political accommodation between Shiite and Sunni politicians in Baghdad, the critics say, there is a risk that any weapons given to Sunni groups will eventually be used against Shiites. There is also the possibility the weapons could be used against the Americans themselves.
www.nytimes.com/2007/06/11/world/middleeast/11iraq.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=
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White House always arms the enemy ever since World War 2, including Korea, Vietnam and Iraq during Gulf War #1. White House always hires the enemy to bomb US soldiers, ever since Pearl Harbor, plus False Flag attacks including USS Liberty and 9/11.
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Originally posted by VoshExeter:
Breaking the country up into more than one nation is evidently still a few months off from being mentioned in main stream media. Any thoughts, feelings, perceptions, interesting show observations?
A Kurdistan look like a good idea but it would p*ss of the Turks who are are friends, Turkey a very secular and even though it has poor human rights is perhaps one of the better examples of democracy in the region
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and how Erdogan turned out a fool, sent Turkey backward and made it more islamist, in power since 94 served as mayor of Istanbul from 1994, Prime Minister of Turkey since 2003 and President. Reporters Without Borders said Erdogan was an "enemy of press freedom" and said that he "hides his aggressive dictatorship under a veneer of democracy"
US launches strike on Iran-backed forces in Iraq, first since February
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4803188-us-launches-strike-iran-bac
ked-forces-iraq/
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